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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:05 pm to USMC Gators
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:05 pm to USMC Gators
Goku didn't have shite on this guy though. 
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:16 pm to USMC Gators
I am convinced that Mr. Satan, his daughter, and his granddaughter(Buu saga version, not GT version) could beat the shite out of Raditz.
Nappa: "Guy who's as weak as a Saibaman says 'what?'
Aww...that usually gets to him. I think he's dead Vegeta!"
Nappa: "Guy who's as weak as a Saibaman says 'what?'
Aww...that usually gets to him. I think he's dead Vegeta!"
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:19 pm to saintsfan92612
You gotta give him credit though, he just walked right up to Perfect Cell and didn't give a frick.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:46 pm to USMC Gators
dude could take a lot of punishment:
and he was the only earthling in DBZ to never die!
and of course, he DEFEATED CELL! and helped to defeat Majin Buu
and he was the only earthling in DBZ to never die!
and of course, he DEFEATED CELL! and helped to defeat Majin Buu
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:52 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
quote:
DrVinnyBoombatz
i dont really agree with you on the ssj1 stuff. how is "ascended" different than "ultra"? sounds the same. vegeta just powered up against cell, i dont think that means he changed his status.
also, i feel like there is only ultra and not ascended. ascended was vegeta hinting at another level of ssj, ie ssj2.
just because you are a ssj doesnt put you at even level with others. goku and gohan's level could be stronger just because they were stronger than trunks or vegeta.
"ultra" is indeed stronger than ssj1 but you lose so much speed. thats why no one uses it. trunks even mentions when he sees gohan go ssj2, that gohan did it the right way. so ultra is in between 1 and 2.
:nerdrant:
Posted on 7/23/12 at 2:56 pm to saintsfan92612
who would win:
vs
vs
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:05 pm to BlacknGold
Ascended is a variation of the ssj form. Vegeta took it to that level. After he lost, Trunks took it to the next level (ussj), and surpassed Vegeta's strength dramatically. Vegeta knew the limits of the ussj transformation. Even Cell points out their mistake and demonstrates it.
FF to the 5:00 mark
FF to the 5:00 mark
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:16 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
i guess you can call it ascended. it just sounds like powering up and not going to far with it.
so what about all forms rankings then?
id go with:
ssj1, ascended, ultra (based on just power), ssj2, mystic ssj, ssj3 (again based only on power).
if we are talking practicality and use:
ascended seems better than ssj1, ssj1, ssj2, ssj3, mystic.
i put mystic as the strongest because from what i remember gohan said it was stronger than being a ssj2 and you could sustain your strength, while ssj3 your energy depleted extremely fast.
so what about all forms rankings then?
id go with:
ssj1, ascended, ultra (based on just power), ssj2, mystic ssj, ssj3 (again based only on power).
if we are talking practicality and use:
ascended seems better than ssj1, ssj1, ssj2, ssj3, mystic.
i put mystic as the strongest because from what i remember gohan said it was stronger than being a ssj2 and you could sustain your strength, while ssj3 your energy depleted extremely fast.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:35 pm to BlacknGold
quote:
i guess you can call it ascended. it just sounds like powering up and not going to far with it.
Pretty much, but it's considered another transformation.
I'd go ssj1, ascended, ussj1, fpssj1 (full power), ssj2, ssj3 and mystic can vary.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:47 pm to BlacknGold
quote:
who would win:
Who's the blue dude?
Edit: What's mystic?
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:49 pm to USMC Gators
blue dude is super android 13. main villain from a movie. kinda like cell he absorbs other androids and becomes a stronger version.
he took down ssj1 goku, trunks, vegeta, and piccolo. took goku absorbing a spirit bomb to defeat him.
mystic is a ssj form in the buu saga that gohan achieves from the supreme kai.
he took down ssj1 goku, trunks, vegeta, and piccolo. took goku absorbing a spirit bomb to defeat him.
mystic is a ssj form in the buu saga that gohan achieves from the supreme kai.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 3:50 pm to USMC Gators
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:02 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
I've only see a few of the movies and didn't watch most of the Buu stuff after Maijin Vegeta sacrificed himself.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:09 pm to USMC Gators
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:14 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
Mystic Gohan arrives
one of my fav moments of the show....gohan shows up wearing his dads colors...
Goten: no, its my brother you guys!
Trunks: are you positive?
one of my fav moments of the show....gohan shows up wearing his dads colors...
Goten: no, its my brother you guys!
Trunks: are you positive?
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:19 pm to Modern
Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:33 pm to Gnarls Broccoli
quote:
If he went back in time, how bad would SSJ3 Goku beat Raditz?
He would thump him and his body would turn dust.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:49 pm to BlacknGold
I never said that they were transformations, but rather an increase in power and strength. Once they mastered the SSJ1 transformation, that is when they became a Full Power SSJ1. The Full Power SSJ1 has the strength and power of an Ultra while still keeping their speed, making the Ultra and Ascended obsolete.
And my understanding is that once they mastered SSJ1, it was only a matter of time before they became SSJ2.
There are only 3 true SSJ transformations in DBZ, SSJ1, SSJ2, and SSJ3. Ultimate Gohan is just an unlocking of all of his power and its debatable if its a transformation or not. Either way, Ultimate Gohan is the most powerful non-fused character in DBZ. So, Ultimate Gohan = SSJ3.5
And my understanding is that once they mastered SSJ1, it was only a matter of time before they became SSJ2.
There are only 3 true SSJ transformations in DBZ, SSJ1, SSJ2, and SSJ3. Ultimate Gohan is just an unlocking of all of his power and its debatable if its a transformation or not. Either way, Ultimate Gohan is the most powerful non-fused character in DBZ. So, Ultimate Gohan = SSJ3.5
Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:43 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
Pretty much agree with all that. Love this discussion 
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