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re: The Walking Dead
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:28 am to Michael J Cocks
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:28 am to Michael J Cocks
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quote:Just the fact that he lied to his wife about him being dead is pure douchebaggary.
I mean apparently he didn't even go back to check for his friend at the hospital and not only just assumed he was dead, but either wished he really was or didn't give enough of a frick to check just because of his ulterior motives i.e fricking his best friends wife. And I know he had the resources and capability to go back and check for his buddy before they made their escape. He just didn't want to.
quote:I definitely want to see how this plays out. I have a feeling Rowdy and Boondock are gonna both be put down at one point.
He seemed like he was getting his wits back plus pissed off at the world just after he said his little prayer and saw those tools. No question he's off the deep end now regardless. If he's still alive, there is no talking him down or apologizing. Someone is gonna pay for leaving him, or their gonna have to kill him. And his brother.
quote:The way I deal with things like this is by just accepting the fact that they haven't been dealing with the zombie apocalypse for too long. It is always better safe than sorry, and if I was in that same position, I would definitely implement some type of discipline in the camp. Anyone who isn't willing to give up a little warmth to possibly keep the zombies at bay would not be welcome in Tigreatville.
Probably being too nitpicky but I was kind of wondering why they have light discipline at the camp? I mean I thought these zombies only heard loud noises and smelt shite. It didn't seem like they could see anything and if they did, not real well. Usually they'll stare at the humans for a while before it seems like they recognize them, and that's because they smell them. If they are off in the distance, I don't see how a glimmering light would attract them since they supposedly aren't cognizant and can't use their brains. I mean lets pretend a car is on fire from the aftermath in the city, are they really gonna all swarm to it?
quote:I liked that scene. He was really pissed after that argument with his butt buddy. Group drama is gonna come out of that because there is no way everyone will just accept him going that far over the line.
Nice to see the dirtbag partner whip the other dirtbag(wife beater)'s arse. I was hoping the women would gang up and beat the frick out of him though.
quote:I really have to give props to AMC. They are taking cable television to the next level and I am loving it.
The Vibrator bit was awesome. Nice to see AMC not editing the frick out of this show. Lots of things on here make you forget this is a regular cable network. I mean non HBO or Showtime.
quote:This episode was epic imo, but I have the feeling taht the next episode will be even better. I can't wait. First time I've looked forward to Sunday in a long time.
Definitely gonna be drama with the humans. The human element is emerging as way scarier than the zombies. Probably lots of bands of criminals and shite all over the place laying low. Probably not a lot of humanitarians survived that thing(the zombie apocalypse) like our hero and his fellow campers. They are gonna run into all kinds of trouble, and still have to worry about Rowdy Burns and his brother. And I'm sure the wife beater isn't gonna forgive the other cop so easily, he'll be looking to shank him in his sleep.
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Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:31 am to Michael J Cocks
I took the dive last night and watched all the episodes and I have to say that I am impressed. I really liked the show, and I am really excited about the next ep. This cops wife is a hoe, and I figured if he keeps running off saving people, she might start fricking the other guy in the woods some more. I thought it was pretty stupid tha the guy on the roof cut his hand off instead of the bold the cuffs were on. Overall I like this series. Wonder what they are gonna wrap up in 3 more eps.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:44 am to Kracka
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This cops wife is a hoe, and I figured if he keeps running off saving people, she might start fricking the other guy in the woods some more.
We don't know that yet. It is hard to say what she should have done given the situation she was in. If she legitimately thought he was dead (because she had been told that by his former partner) then at some point she has to move on. Maybe a month or so isn't quite enough time but she was still wearing the guy's wedding band around her neck.
She is pissed that he is going back into the fray when he could have stayed behind with her. My wife speculated that this isn't the first time he has unnecessarily put himself in danger and that the wife is fed up with it.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:51 am to LSUnowhas2
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We don't know that yet. It is hard to say what she should have done given the situation she was in. If she legitimately thought he was dead (because she had been told that by his former partner) then at some point she has to move on. Maybe a month or so isn't quite enough time but she was still wearing the guy's wedding band around her neck.
Yeah I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt too. Obviously this guy has been coveting her for a long time(it goes back to that conversation in the car in the 1st episode). Seems like he's always wanted his best friends wife now that I look back. So it was perfect given the circumstances to just leave him behind and say he was dead. And apparently he didn't make it look like speculation, he must have had a conversation telling her of some kind of proof or confirmation, that's why she was so pissed and acting like she'd been taken advantage of.
also this goes back to the time-line. How much time actually passed between him being shot and the zombie apocalypse? Could be a month, could be 3 or 4. Still not a lot of time either way, but people do strange shite during the apocalypse I guess.
4 months is better than 1 month when you are gonna frick your husbands best friend I suppose. quote:
She is pissed that he is going back into the fray when he could have stayed behind with her. My wife speculated that this isn't the first time he has unnecessarily put himself in danger and that the wife is fed up with it.
Yeah, apparently she wasn't real fond of him being a cop either. Remember when he got shot in the vest and the first thing he did was turn around and tell Shane "do not tell my wife about this!"...then he got shot for real as he was telling him this. I'm sure she's just been through a lot of shite and worry with him that weighed down their relationship.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:53 am to Michael J Cocks
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some kind of proof or confirmation
She had his ring. Why would he not have it on in the hospital? I'm thinking the partner took the ring and said that he found him dead.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:55 am to DestrehanTiger
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She had his ring. Why would he not have it on in the hospital? I'm thinking the partner took the ring and said that he found him dead.
This makes perfect sense.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 9:56 am to DestrehanTiger
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She had his ring. Why would he not have it on in the hospital? I'm thinking the partner took the ring and said that he found him dead.
That's a good point. Or his wife took home most of his valuables while he was in the hospital. When you are down with a GSW they do a lot of x-rays, MRI's and surgeries. You can't have your ring on during most of that and it's not really safe to just leave your jewelry/valuables just laying around the hospital.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/15/10 at 10:02 am to Tigreat
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The way I deal with things like this is by just accepting the fact that they haven't been dealing with the zombie apocalypse for too long. It is always better safe than sorry, and if I was in that same position, I would definitely implement some type of discipline in the camp. Anyone who isn't willing to give up a little warmth to possibly keep the zombies at bay would not be welcome in Tigreatville.
True. I guess we have to assume they don't know as much about the zombies as we do since we see all angles. It just seemed like the hero put it all together, the smell thing and of course we know they come to loud noises. And shite, I could be wrong, maybe a glimmering light would attract them, especially when they start running out of food in the city.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:31 pm to Michael J Cocks
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maybe a glimmering light would attract them,
Or band of human ner'do'wells'
Posted on 11/15/10 at 12:32 pm to Michael J Cocks
Gotta say, I really enjoy this show. Discovered it last night and watched the whole thing up to where it is now.
The "what zombies can do/can't do, etc." stuff doesn't bother me much. I've never been a big horror or zombie fan. (but I've always been a fan of post apocloyptic stuff like The Stand and this is doing that very well). Like I said above stuff like why the guy sawed his hand off does irk me a little but I can buy the "he was crazier than a loon and halucinating" angle.
Can't wait till next Sunday night.
The "what zombies can do/can't do, etc." stuff doesn't bother me much. I've never been a big horror or zombie fan. (but I've always been a fan of post apocloyptic stuff like The Stand and this is doing that very well). Like I said above stuff like why the guy sawed his hand off does irk me a little but I can buy the "he was crazier than a loon and halucinating" angle.
Can't wait till next Sunday night.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 1:48 pm to Methuselah
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The "what zombies can do/can't do, etc." stuff doesn't bother me much. I've never been a big horror or zombie fan.
yeah I hate being a dick about it but it just seems like the more I get into it, I want to know all the zombies powers. What they can and can't do and if they can adapt which it seems they do, just like an animal would do when they run out of food. They'll move and find it somewhere else. I guess they're brain dead to an extent, but seem to be operating on at least instinct or something.
I mean if they're completely dense beings that came back to life and couldn't use their brain at all, they'd pretty much walk around aimlessly until they bumped into something then fall down and never get back up. And they do walk around aimlessly to an extent, but they certainly know how to leave an area when it's empty and find a new one.
frick ME FOR CARING THIS MUCH!
I'm sitting here driving myself crazy thinking on shite they do that they shouldn't be able to, I've even composed a list I'm not gonna bother sharing.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:08 pm to Michael J Cocks
As far as the ring thing, I got from their conversation in the tent that they were having marital issues, and were kinda rocky. Something was said @ forgetting all the bad things etc..Also, she said "you want it back?" like he relinquished it at some point in time.
I completely dig the whole some zombies can do one thing, and others can't. It strays away from the stereotypical zombie that is displayed over and over ad nauseam. If the zombie apocolypse really did take place, would YOU ASSUME that zombies can't do shite? or be ready for anything?
I think it's hella refreshing, and they really haven't overdone it to some large degree etc anyway.
I completely dig the whole some zombies can do one thing, and others can't. It strays away from the stereotypical zombie that is displayed over and over ad nauseam. If the zombie apocolypse really did take place, would YOU ASSUME that zombies can't do shite? or be ready for anything?
I think it's hella refreshing, and they really haven't overdone it to some large degree etc anyway.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/15/10 at 3:22 pm to Tigreat
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I mean apparently he didn't even go back to check for his friend at the hospital and not only just assumed he was dead, but either wished he really was or didn't give enough of a frick to check just because of his ulterior motives i.e fricking his best friends wife. And I know he had the resources and capability to go back and check for his buddy before they made their escape. He just didn't want to.
I'm not completely sold on his partner being a total douche.
Think about it. The guy was in a coma in a hospital that got overrun with zombies. Going back to see if he was alive would do what? The guy was in a coma. Assuming he was dead is very logical.
With that said, I still think it was wrong to TELL her he was DEAD. I don't know what I expect him to do though.
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Also, why did it take him so long to think about getting the hacksaw.
The thing is, we don't know how much time passed between last episode and this one. It could be an hour for all we know. Also, he could have already tried and failed in getting the hacksaw (we just didn't see it).
The guy was clearly going mad.
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Or his wife took home most of his valuables while he was in the hospital. When you are down with a GSW they do a lot of x-rays, MRI's and surgeries. You can't have your ring on during most of that and it's not really safe to just leave your jewelry/valuables just laying around the hospital.
I agree with this.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 5:15 pm to Michael J Cocks
quote:didn't the black guy tell him when they were in the house that they were attracted to light??
And shite, I could be wrong, maybe a glimmering light would attract them, especially when they start running out of food in the city.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 5:19 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:exactly, the town is crawling with zombies, Shane now has his friends wife and kid to worry about. who's to say he didn't go to the hospital, see it was crawling with zombies and naturally assume his comatose friend had became a meal, not like he can run away.
I'm not completely sold on his partner being a total douche.
Think about it. The guy was in a coma in a hospital that got overrun with zombies. Going back to see if he was alive would do what? The guy was in a coma. Assuming he was dead is very logical.
I have a strong feeling that Shane is going to be vindicated in a big way, but i think it might take his death to do it.
And no i haven't read any of the books, so if i'm right don't tell me
Posted on 11/15/10 at 5:41 pm to The Dude Abides
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didn't the black guy tell him when they were in the house that they were attracted to light??
Hmm. I think he did.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 5:49 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:and they killed the lights when he looked out the window to see the car alarm.
Hmm. I think he did.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 6:18 pm to The Dude Abides
quote:
didn't the black guy tell him when they were in the house that they were attracted to light??
I don't remember, I'll check it again tonight. But yeah, he did kill the lights when they opened the window, but that's because they were right there peeping in. I'm not sure they'd see something flashing from miles off and head towards it. I'm just thinking back on when this first started and a shite ton of things must have been on fire, I couldn't see them swarming all that shite just because it was putting off light.
ETA: I need to watch the 2nd episode again too because I thought that's where they said their eye sight was weak or almost non-existent. But I could have dreamed that or saw it in another one of the million zombie shows I've watched in the past week or so.
This post was edited on 11/15/10 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/15/10 at 6:20 pm to Michael J Cocks
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How much time actually passed between him being shot and the zombie apocalypse? Could be a month, could be 3 or 4. Still not a lot of time either way
This is the only part of the plot that's a huge hole that is hard to ignore. The rest I can deal with.
Depending on the environmental conditions, he'd be dead from dehydration in 7-10 days and way too weak to function as he was shortly after waking after just a few days with no water.
You can't stretch your imagination far enough to let that slide.
Posted on 11/15/10 at 6:25 pm to Scoop
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This is the only part of the plot that's a huge hole that is hard to ignore. The rest I can deal with.
Depending on the environmental conditions, he'd be dead from dehydration in 7-10 days and way too weak to function as he was shortly after waking after just a few days with no water.
You can't stretch your imagination far enough to let that slide.
In the shows defense to help combat this problem, he could have gotten shot and been in the hospital a month or so maybe longer, then the zombie apocalypse started and I'm sure it started kind of gradually, they may have maintained control of the hospital for weeks or months before they lost control, electricity etc. Then once they lost it, it may have been a week or so until he woke up. Maybe since he was immobile the dehydration wouldn't have been as much of a factor. But still kind of hard to wrap your mind around.
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