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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:28 am to GeauxColonels
Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:28 am to GeauxColonels
It's an award show for individual performances and work. The only award that is a celebration of movies is
Best Picture. Of course they're going to pat themselves on the back. You're acting like they shouldn't be..
Best Picture. Of course they're going to pat themselves on the back. You're acting like they shouldn't be..
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:21 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:without a doubt, cable is blasting networks in that regard
In terms of quality
the networks really don't have anything to compete with cable in that regard, but free tv has and always will be bigger than pay tv
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:27 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:
Also, don't discount the fact that the Oscars is now the culmination of a series of multiple award shows. People get tired of seeing rich celebrities pat themselves on the back over and over again.
If the Oscars is truly a celebration of movies, then make it one instead a celebration of celebrity or political agendas. If they had more Lady Gaga/Sound of Music and less Patricia Arquette, then they'd see their ratings go up. Hell, come up with some new awards like best comedic performance or something.
airplane, dumb and dumber. They've discounted the comedy genre forever. And that's pretty much the nail on the head. It's not about the movies, it's not even to recognize achievements in film. It's self congratulatory nonsense.
20 years later, everyone watches and loves dumb and dumber. 2 years after the royal tennanbaums, nobody gives a frick. 2 years after doubt, nobody gives a frick
is it really an achievement if nobody fricking cares?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:28 pm to DelU249
quote:
2 years after the royal tennanbaums, nobody gives a frick.
that movies is still widely appreciated and the director made a movie this year that was up for about a dozen oscars, you were saying?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:31 pm to Baloo
quote:every other network ran re-runs (well fox did, I would assume the rest did the same)
Well, they still had 36.6 million viewers
they're on network tv on a sunday night, no football, no basketball playoffs, no nothing that anyone gives a shite about except one CABLE network
when you have all the network air time to yourself and something appealing like "the movies" frick yeah you should do that. Also, the dip as the show wore on was staggering, they almost lost a quarter of their audience by the end of the show.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:33 pm to REG861
quote:really, when is it on TV, when does anyone reference some part in the movie?
that movies is still widely appreciated
quote:precisely, and no one will give a shite about this one by next year either.
and the director made a movie this year that was up for about a dozen oscars, you were saying?
gotta get back to work
oh man, remember that time in djarling limited when, oh...yeah, what the frick was that movie about again?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:33 pm to DelU249
No Lego movie made the entire show not valid
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:37 pm to Baloo
quote:that would be an excellent idea. I watched for a brief segment, the chick in the crazy dress performance
But, above all, STOP BEING ASHAMED OF WHAT THE OSCARS ARE. Go all out on glitz and glamour. Stop being so dour and depressing. Have fun, wear outrageous dresses, and get drunk. And I hate to say it, a few more montages of prior winners wouldn't kill you, particularly in the in memorium section. Stop telling us movies are great. Instead, show us.
let's see, she made me watch
visual effects
costume design
animated short
animated film
anyway, I agree, it was a miserable tone to it. The best part was watching channing tatum struggle with the teleprompter or cue cards. Not that he's dumb, it was just funny.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:38 pm to DelU249
quote:
2 years after the royal tennanbaums, nobody gives a frick. 2 years after doubt, nobody gives a frick
For somebody who is railing against self importance and back patting you sure are being arrogant and elitist as all get out.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:39 pm to DelU249
quote:
quote:
and the director made a movie this year that was up for about a dozen oscars, you were saying?
precisely, and no one will give a shite about this one by next year either.
gotta get back to work
oh man, remember that time in djarling limited when, oh...yeah, what the frick was that movie about again?
He releases a new acclaimed movie every other year. It really just sounds to me like you're too dumb to understand his movies or any remotely mature cinema.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:43 pm to REG861
quote:yes that's it
really just sounds to me like you're too dumb to understand his movies or any remotely mature cinema.
say what you want, but the show was boring, the ratings were much lower than anticipated, they lost 19% of their audience throughout the telecast.
yes, they must be doing something great
quote:and
any remotely mature cinema
at this. It would be one thing if I were beating the drum to have more Michael bay movies included, but 
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:45 pm to DelU249
quote:Yea, that's a bad sign.
say what you want, but the show was boring, the ratings were much lower than anticipated, they lost 19% of their audience throughout the telecast.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:57 pm to DelU249
quote:
Drop the SJW, leftist political nonsens
I actually think it is okay to say something about civil rights and shite when you are winning an award for a Martin Luther King movie. As long as your political statement is brief and relevant to the movie, I get it.
But it is really annoying when Patricia Arquette wins an Oscar for Boyhood and then uses her minute on stage to spew irrelevant shite about women not making enough money.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:04 pm to DelU249
quote:
It would be one thing if I were beating the drum to have more Michael bay movies included, but
...but you are advocating Dumb and Dumber to get an Oscar. You just seem angry that the Oscars do not solely cater to mainstream and accessible movies.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:06 pm to broeho
quote:
But it is really annoying when Patricia Arquette wins an Oscar for Boyhood and then uses her minute on stage to spew irrelevant shite about women not making enough money.
Its even more annoying when you add to that fact that just for being nominated, she got a gift bag worth $125,000 and went on to some lavish afterparty. Yeah, I really feel for her.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:11 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:first world feminism
she got a gift bag worth $125,000 and went on to some lavish afterparty. Yeah, I really feel for her.
but it's not even the substance of their message (though it certainly doesn't fricking help), it's that people watch movies to get away from that shite. A movie can be socially relevant if it's done right, but nobody wants to be beaten over the head with it to the point the whole movie sucks.
I would imagine people feel the same way when they watch the Oscars...it's entertainment. You'd think a shite load of entertainers would realize that.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:14 pm to TDTGodfather
quote:
and i'm torn on things like costume and set design but to bring in other categories you could drop those as well (not drop, add to tech oscars).
no way you are cutting best Production Design ..... the Designer is one of the three most integral members of the crew (along with the Director And DP).
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:28 pm to DelU249
Some good points.
The thing to me about the political/SJW stuff is when it isn't personal or relevant to the film or person. I had no issue with the woman who briefly talked about how her son committed suicide and it is something we shouldn't be afraid to say. I had no issue with the gay guy who talked about how he almost killed himself and how he wanted to reach out to other troubled kids as well. They were first person and relevant.
When John Legend starts railing about how too many black people are in prison or when Arquette randomly starts talking about "Equal pay for women" is when they really lose me.
They do need to cut it down and put more focus on the major awards. Just take one segment and go over all the minor awards. They don't need to give time for:
Sound mixing
Sound editing
Documentary Short Subject
Animated Short Subject
Orignal Music Score
Live Action Short Film
The ones everyone does care about:
Picture
Director
Actor
Actress
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Original Screenplay
Adapted Screenplay
Original Song
Animated Feature
Take it or leave it:
Documentary Feature
Film Editing
Makeup
Cinematography
Visual Effects
Costume Design
Production Design
Essentially you have 10 awards people care about, half a dozen or so that people have varying interest in, and another half dozen that very few people have any idea what the movies are or what they are even talking about. Yet the format makes you sit through literally hours of the "meh" awards to get to the awards you care about.
One thing I didn't care for this time was they seemed to show fewer actual film scenes and they didn't even show scenes when they spoke about how a film was nominated.
Personally I think it would be much cooler to have the Producer or Director of a film talk about their own film for the Best Picture nominees. I like how they mention them all during the show but they have some random actor read off a cue card. It would be much cooler for each of the nominees to have a 1-2 minute short film that has them describe the film and what they were doing with it while the film is in the background. Just cut the lights and start the short film with an script of "Best Picture Nominee, XXXXX".
Just please cut out the MC comedy bits, they just don't work. Ever. Improvised comments and a few prescripted lines but doing the walk in the audience thing or worst of all that stupid "predictions" thing were terrible.
All the stuff about trying to get the Academy to vote or nominate different films I disagree with. I don't like all the choices but I wouldn't like it if they made it in to the People's Choice Awards either.
The thing to me about the political/SJW stuff is when it isn't personal or relevant to the film or person. I had no issue with the woman who briefly talked about how her son committed suicide and it is something we shouldn't be afraid to say. I had no issue with the gay guy who talked about how he almost killed himself and how he wanted to reach out to other troubled kids as well. They were first person and relevant.
When John Legend starts railing about how too many black people are in prison or when Arquette randomly starts talking about "Equal pay for women" is when they really lose me.
They do need to cut it down and put more focus on the major awards. Just take one segment and go over all the minor awards. They don't need to give time for:
Sound mixing
Sound editing
Documentary Short Subject
Animated Short Subject
Orignal Music Score
Live Action Short Film
The ones everyone does care about:
Picture
Director
Actor
Actress
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Original Screenplay
Adapted Screenplay
Original Song
Animated Feature
Take it or leave it:
Documentary Feature
Film Editing
Makeup
Cinematography
Visual Effects
Costume Design
Production Design
Essentially you have 10 awards people care about, half a dozen or so that people have varying interest in, and another half dozen that very few people have any idea what the movies are or what they are even talking about. Yet the format makes you sit through literally hours of the "meh" awards to get to the awards you care about.
One thing I didn't care for this time was they seemed to show fewer actual film scenes and they didn't even show scenes when they spoke about how a film was nominated.
Personally I think it would be much cooler to have the Producer or Director of a film talk about their own film for the Best Picture nominees. I like how they mention them all during the show but they have some random actor read off a cue card. It would be much cooler for each of the nominees to have a 1-2 minute short film that has them describe the film and what they were doing with it while the film is in the background. Just cut the lights and start the short film with an script of "Best Picture Nominee, XXXXX".
Just please cut out the MC comedy bits, they just don't work. Ever. Improvised comments and a few prescripted lines but doing the walk in the audience thing or worst of all that stupid "predictions" thing were terrible.
All the stuff about trying to get the Academy to vote or nominate different films I disagree with. I don't like all the choices but I wouldn't like it if they made it in to the People's Choice Awards either.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:29 pm to NOFOX
I'm not advocating it get an award. It's actually quite the detriment to your argument that a movie with booger and fart jokes will stand the test of time, will be more loved, more watched, than any of the movies that were nominated for best picture in 2015
I'm sorry, is film not a visual medium anymore?
characters, stories, images, these are what makes movies great...moments. They relate to people. Even the experience of going to the theater can be something great.
and why should comedy go unrecognized, was dumb and dumber not the funniest movie made in 1994? I have no problem with sophisticated films, but having this silly criteria that only "serious" films be recognized excludes so many awesome movies, and great movies, because they didn't "measure up"...and as it relates to the OP, turns people off to your awards show. It's almost like a condemnation of what they love about movies.
I do like mature films, I also love adventure films, and science fiction films, and horror films and comedy films. The problem I have is it's all or none. it's either serious, or it's summer schlock. If you tell a great story, the rest takes care of itself. I guess I dislike so many of these movies because I can just sense they weren't made in the interest of telling a great story. They're made to feature a performance, or to showcase a style, or to fit a criteria for getting an award.
Dumb and Dumber is more important to people than whatever Oscar bait movie that is made to showcase a performance that no one will give two shits about in a few years.
Do you think that only movies that are serious, and nuanced are GREAT? It's such a nonsensical idea that the academy awards are kind of a running joke. So adding to the fact this year that it was boring, a poor production and dragged on forever, people didn't like it as much
I'm sorry, is film not a visual medium anymore?
characters, stories, images, these are what makes movies great...moments. They relate to people. Even the experience of going to the theater can be something great.
and why should comedy go unrecognized, was dumb and dumber not the funniest movie made in 1994? I have no problem with sophisticated films, but having this silly criteria that only "serious" films be recognized excludes so many awesome movies, and great movies, because they didn't "measure up"...and as it relates to the OP, turns people off to your awards show. It's almost like a condemnation of what they love about movies.
I do like mature films, I also love adventure films, and science fiction films, and horror films and comedy films. The problem I have is it's all or none. it's either serious, or it's summer schlock. If you tell a great story, the rest takes care of itself. I guess I dislike so many of these movies because I can just sense they weren't made in the interest of telling a great story. They're made to feature a performance, or to showcase a style, or to fit a criteria for getting an award.
Dumb and Dumber is more important to people than whatever Oscar bait movie that is made to showcase a performance that no one will give two shits about in a few years.
Do you think that only movies that are serious, and nuanced are GREAT? It's such a nonsensical idea that the academy awards are kind of a running joke. So adding to the fact this year that it was boring, a poor production and dragged on forever, people didn't like it as much
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:31 pm to JW
agreed, production values are crucial
if the show is interesting and has movies people care about, then let it run a little long.
is a musical performance required? It makes sense when a musical is up for awards and is so popular (frozen), but you don't NEED to have it every year
if the show is interesting and has movies people care about, then let it run a little long.
is a musical performance required? It makes sense when a musical is up for awards and is so popular (frozen), but you don't NEED to have it every year
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