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re: True Detective (Collective Theories Thread)
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:47 am to HumbleNinja
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:47 am to HumbleNinja
I feel certain that Marty and Rust form a truce in order to uncover the truth of what happened to Dora Lange. Also do not think we find out the true Yellow king until minutes before the show ends.
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:26 am to rebeloke
After episode 1, I thought the primary antagonist was either Tuttle or the paralyzed uncle..after five episodes though, I'm starting to think it may be the woman who oversees the hillbilly bunny ranch
eta: I think the sheriff that was at the crime scene and that works in the same town as the woman who oversees the hillbilly bunny ranch is also involved, as is tuttle and possibly the uncle of Marie Fontenot
eta: I think the sheriff that was at the crime scene and that works in the same town as the woman who oversees the hillbilly bunny ranch is also involved, as is tuttle and possibly the uncle of Marie Fontenot
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 7:29 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:31 am to rebeloke
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I feel certain that Marty and Rust form a truce in order to uncover the truth of what happened to Dora Lange.
I don't think the argument/fight is planned by them. I think Rust goes even as far as to push Marty and his family away. When Marty is presented with pictures of Cohle at the later crime scene, he looks genuinely surprised.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:40 am to Rickety Cricket
Started circling back toward a simpler view of the plot. Marty and Rust have real beef and then they put their differences aside to try and catch the killer. The real killer though, is going to be held back until the end. I thought they may leave us wondering but have decided like I said before it will be a Seven type ending with a shock at the end.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:28 am to rebeloke
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I feel certain that Marty and Rust form a truce in order to uncover the truth of what happened to Dora Lange. Also do not think we find out the true Yellow king until minutes before the show ends.
really? what gave it away?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:32 am to rebeloke
I keep coming back to the fact that these devil nets are left around the murder sites, the old school, and fontenot's house.
It's almost as if he/she/they are trying to protect those areas/bodies against demons/evil spirits. Why else would you put devil nets around? Specifically the one at the Fontenot's. She disappeared a while back, yet the devil net was still there and not at the site she was killed (if she is even dead). If it is not only the killer's mark, it was left there for a reason.
I think someone previously mentioned that the war Tuttle mentioned was a literal war between good vs evil groups... or just one group that believes they are battling evil...
Not really breaking new ground with these points, just something my mind keeps going towards.
It's almost as if he/she/they are trying to protect those areas/bodies against demons/evil spirits. Why else would you put devil nets around? Specifically the one at the Fontenot's. She disappeared a while back, yet the devil net was still there and not at the site she was killed (if she is even dead). If it is not only the killer's mark, it was left there for a reason.
I think someone previously mentioned that the war Tuttle mentioned was a literal war between good vs evil groups... or just one group that believes they are battling evil...
Not really breaking new ground with these points, just something my mind keeps going towards.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:47 am to guedeaux
So it is possible the devil catchers are not the killers? Is so that is an interest and complicated twist.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:18 am to rebeloke
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So it is possible the devil catchers are not the killers? Is so that is an interest and complicated twist.
I think they are killing, but I don't think they are killing for the sake of killing as in most serial killer stories. They aren't just old men getting their rocks off killing these girls. These people have a more altruistic (in their minds) reason for killing.
ETA: however they may not be only killing the girls, e.g. we have been lead to believe that there are multiple missing kids, yet only 1 dead girl in 1995 and another in 2012 have been displayed and thus confirmed dead.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:21 am to guedeaux
maybe there are some bad men doing bad things to keep the other bad men from the door? 
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:38 am to Tiger Ryno
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maybe there are some bad men doing bad things to keep the other bad men from the door?
We know that Marty and Cohle are bad men who keep bad men from the door, but there may be other bad men who are trying to keep other bad men from the door whilst the aforementioned bad men are keeping the second group from the front door concurrently with other bad men using the sliding porch door. And then one bad man ate that fine arse bitches back door. Nice.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:45 am to guedeaux
Human sacrifice is to appease spirits or release power to those present. The devil catchers are there to either ward off spirits or the keep the victim from returning to this life. They seem to contradict one another. It is as if the murderer has sympathy for the victim.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:48 am to rebeloke
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They seem to contradict one another.
Exactly.
This show is fricking my life up.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:51 am to rebeloke
quote:Maybe so. Maybe the "Christians" are finding these people who they feel are living a bad life - prostitution, drugs, etc. and are giving them (in their mind) a way out - die and you go to heaven and live a life in glory - and the devil catchers are to keep them from returning to this life, which is full of sin and evil.
Human sacrifice is to appease spirits or release power to those present. The devil catchers are there to either ward off spirits or the keep the victim from returning to this life. They seem to contradict one another. It is as if the murderer has sympathy for the victim.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:58 am to PJinAtl
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Maybe so. Maybe the "Christians" are finding these people who they feel are living a bad life - prostitution, drugs, etc. and are giving them (in their mind) a way out - die and you go to heaven and live a life in glory - and the devil catchers are to keep them from returning to this life, which is full of sin and evil.
That can go back to the whole "we are destined to repeat everything" idea. They sacrifice these women, use the devil nets to catch the bad whatever, allowing them to be reincarnated as good...
ETA:
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This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:02 am to guedeaux
The knife wounds in the abdomen of the victims make the notion of mercy killings seem unlikely. They are ritual killings and involve voodoo or the dark arts.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:03 am to guedeaux
It seems like the cult drawings are pretty primitive, I'm wondering if it was children who made them. Also, the same with all of the devil catchers. With such a big stash of them at the Light the Way school, it looks like the kids could have been making them during class. That would give us all the youngsters enrolled in the school (indoctrinated), the faculty, and possibly the parents (if they knew what their kids were learning), as involved in the cult...that would make the involvement much bigger than just a few powerful folks and would suggest a larger operation.
After the hurricane, who knows where all of the cult folks could have spread to and continued growing their operations. Going back to all of the missing kids, I wouldn't be surprised if they were abducted more for indoctrination than murder.
After the hurricane, who knows where all of the cult folks could have spread to and continued growing their operations. Going back to all of the missing kids, I wouldn't be surprised if they were abducted more for indoctrination than murder.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:04 am to rebeloke
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The knife wounds in the abdomen of the victims make the notion of mercy killings seem unlikely. They are ritual killings and involve voodoo or the dark arts.
Or cleansing the soul through pain which is a clear theme in a lot of storied and shite like this.
I am just spit-balling all this shite though.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:04 am to guedeaux
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And then one bad man ate that fine arse bitches back door. Nice
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:18 am to boxcarbarney
Actually Chambers borrowed the term Caroosa from Ambrose Bierce.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:47 am to Tiger at Law
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It seems like the cult drawings are pretty primitive, I'm wondering if it was children who made them. Also, the same with all of the devil catchers. With such a big stash of them at the Light the Way school, it looks like the kids could have been making them during class. That would give us all the youngsters enrolled in the school (indoctrinated), the faculty, and possibly the parents (if they knew what their kids were learning), as involved in the cult...that would make the involvement much bigger than just a few powerful folks and would suggest a larger operation.
I hadn't even thought of the children making all those catchers while school was in session! That does seem to make sense.
Although the gardener making them also makes sense as he would have access to the sticks and such and would not be suspected if he were carrying around sticks and twigs, etc...
Hhhmmmmm.........
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