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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:40 am to
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:40 am to
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Yeah Eric Kasileus (sp?) said clearly Orlando has the best package to give

WTF. Orlando has, by far, the worst package to give. Just dog shite awful.
I've heard a lot of the so called experts saying Orlando too. Skip and Hollinger said it.

Their reason: CP3 and Howard would be AWESOME in a P&R. Yeah no shite.

They totally ignore the trade from New Orleans' perspective. Demps should put out a release simply saying,"WE DONT WANT JAMEER frickIN NELSON!"
This post was edited on 7/23/10 at 9:42 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:43 am to
I wanted to call in so bad but I knew I would never get on. What a god awful trade.

ESPN just pushes these terrible trade ideas because they want CP3 elsewhere, especially NYK, Orlando or LAL, its good for ratings, and they don't give a shite what we get.

Can Randolph even be traded until December?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Demps should put out a release simply saying,"WE DONT WANT JAMEER frickIN NELSON!"



If Demps did that, I would love him for life. I would erect statutes to him, because that would be
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:44 am to
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First see if you can get Chandler instead of Azubuke, if not go ahead and do it, imo.


Of course Chandler is the better player but I think this is the fairest deal. Plus we'd have Gallarni at SF plus Peja this year plus Qpon on the bench. Azubuke with be a great SG to pair up with Thornton.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
177290 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:44 am to
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Can Randolph even be traded until December?


Yes. I think he can be traded before the season starts.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:48 am to
Actually Azubuike would be a good match for Thornton, a defensive SG. I prefer Chandler, but I could live with Buike.

Gallinari, Randolph, Buike, Curry's expiring plus future picks would be a somewhat decent package, especially if they are taking on Okafor.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21082 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Demps should put out a release simply saying,"WE DONT WANT JAMEER frickIN NELSON!"


Exactly. Why exactly would we want to downgrade at the position and take one MORE crappy contracts? Gimme a break man.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471567 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:51 am to
it's as if collison's rookie season didn't happen

obviously they weren't watching
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103407 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:54 am to
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it's as if collison's rookie season didn't happen

obviously they weren't watching



People who didn't watch the Hornets and just read a stat sheet claim we're delusional for thinking that Collison is a starting-quality PG who can replace Paul, let alone being a better fit than Nelson, Rondo, etc.

They don't seem to take into account that Collison started 32 games but spent most of the other 50 subbing for Paul, which is a different role than playing the starting point with the first-stringers and kind of distorts his stats as a result.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:56 am to
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it's as if collison's rookie season didn't happen

obviously they weren't watching
That, and they act like Nelson is a frickin beast or something

The guy averaged 13 pts and 5 ast last year WITH Dwight Howard and a bunch of shooters around him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:59 am to
Anyone know much about Mozgov, the 24 year old 7 footer from Russia? The media claimed he was the "best international free agent" for what ever that's worth.

quote:

Jonathan Givony, the president of Draft Express, a Web site that analyzes draft prospects, first reported the deal. He called Mozgov a “super late bloomer” and compared him to the Los Angeles Lakers backup center D. J. Mbenga.

“He’s athletic like him, he has bad hands like him, but he’s more productive,” Givony said. “That’s the style of a guy he is. He’s a banger, he’s athletic, he’s tough, he finishes well around the basket and he can block shots.”

LINK
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:59 am to
Go to the Knicks board on RealGM.

Those guys think that if they have to take on Okafor, that we would have to include expirings and picks, AND they only have to give up Toney Douglas, Chandler, Curry.

Good stuff.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471567 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:00 am to
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he’s athletic, he’s tough, he finishes well around the basket and he can block shots.”

sounds like his peak is b/w darko and mini-gasol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471567 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Those guys think that if they have to take on Okafor, that we would have to include expirings and picks

expirings? it makes sense, but they don't have the pieces to assume these salaries in an adventageous way
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103407 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Go to the Knicks board on RealGM.

Those guys think that if they have to take on Okafor, that we would have to include expirings and picks, AND they only have to give up Toney Douglas, Chandler, Curry.

Good stuff.


Christ, that's any board right about now. Everyone thinks they can pick up Paul for peanuts and that they're doing US a favor if they take Okafor, Posey, etc., with him.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128930 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:06 am to
quote:

sounds like his peak is b/w darko and mini-gasol



That would be fine with me if he's a throw in. Good potential and this team lacks size.

But if I'm dealing with the Knicks, Gallinari, Randolph, Curry's expiring and taking on Okafor are musts. Everything else is negotiable.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:07 am to
The Knicks can go frick themselves, if Paul is going to NYC, I want Gallinari and Randolph.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Everyone thinks they can pick up Paul for peanuts and that they're doing US a favor if they take Okafor, Posey, etc., with him


Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:10 am to
The Knicks have come out and said they are willing to part with anybody on their team not named Amare.

quote:

The Knicks hope they can put a package together to convince the Hornets to trade Chris Paul to New York. A league executive tells the New York Post that everyone, except Amar'e Stoudemire could be included to get the trade done.

"Amar'e won't be traded, but everyone else is available," the executive said.

One important note: Any free agent who has signed a contract with the Knicks can not be traded until December 15, at the earliest.
This post was edited on 7/23/10 at 10:11 am
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23467 posts
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:11 am to
quote:

CP, Emeka, Juju

For

Gallanari, Curry, Turiaf, Randolph, Azubuke


They should have to probably throw in an unprotected 1st since CP3 is a star, Okafor is a legit starting big in the East, and JuJu might be somewhat salvagable in the Knicks' offense.
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