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re: Per Duncan: Pels have began interviews this morning; list confirmed
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:39 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:39 pm to Chad504boy
It’s not just the racist stuff, Ferry’s drafting sucked and one has to wonder how much of that Hawks team success was owed to hiring Bud as opposed to Ferry’s player moves.
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:44 pm to NOFOX
Yeah Ferry's draft record was...not good.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:54 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I don't know if I missed that info before.
The Pelicans have validated their words by commissioning consultant Mike Ford to lead the search. Ford was recommended by NBA Comissioner Adam Silver and is one of the most respected head-hunters in the industry. He helped the Brooklyn Nets find general manager Sean Marks three years ago and is widely hailed in pro sports circles for his corporate matchmaking skills. LINK
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:55 pm to eyeran
I mean, that sounds great. Sean Marks turned out to be a visionary choice.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:58 pm to eyeran
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I don't know if I missed that info before.
Yeah, I didn’t see it earlier. No clue who the guy is, but I am glad they are leaning on their relationship with Silver in the rebuild.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:00 pm to NOFOX
Yeah none of us would have enough info about the guy to say anything.
But it seems like a great move to bring him in to help.
But it seems like a great move to bring him in to help.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:12 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ford has been President of Bay Communications Inc., a communications and strategic consulting company serving both corporate and political clients. Since 1984. Mr. Ford serves as a senior corporate consultant and political strategist. He served as Senior Advisor to e-Citi, the Internet strategy and development arm of Citigroup, and advised the NBA Players Association during the 1998 strike. He played a role in every U.S. presidential campaign from 1972 to 1996 and served in more than 185 campaigns nationwide, offering strategic and creative consulting to candidates, officeholders and public organizations including President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Senator Ted Kennedy, Governor Jerry Brown, and other members of Congress, the Democratic National Committee, and various state legislative caucuses and trade unions. Mr. Ford serves as a Member of Advisory Board of Smartpaper Networks Corp.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:15 pm to NOFOX
That List of candidates is going to trigger some people 
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:34 pm to Fun Bunch
Here's my question: Why does everyone assume Rosas is going to be a great analytics guy just because he worked under Morey???
Morey is a VERY smart guy with a BS in computer science from Northwestern and an MBA from MIT. Rosas has a marketing degree from the University of Houston. HE's not the Houston version of Zarren. The only way I would see Rosas instituting a functioing analytical approach like Morey is if he poached Monte McNair on his way out. Morey protected McNair though when Rosas started interviewing again by promoting him to assistant GM last year.
Morey is a VERY smart guy with a BS in computer science from Northwestern and an MBA from MIT. Rosas has a marketing degree from the University of Houston. HE's not the Houston version of Zarren. The only way I would see Rosas instituting a functioing analytical approach like Morey is if he poached Monte McNair on his way out. Morey protected McNair though when Rosas started interviewing again by promoting him to assistant GM last year.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:40 pm to NOFOX
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Here's my question: Why does everyone assume Rosas is going to be a great analytics guy just because he worked under Morey???
He doesn't have to be a great analytics guy, he just has to value it highly and want to build that up here. I can't imagine being in Houston that long without drinking the koolaid.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:49 pm to TigerinATL
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He doesn't have to be a great analytics guy, he just has to value it highly and want to build that up here. I can't imagine being in Houston that long without drinking the koolaid.
Sure, but Houston is absurdly reliant on analytics because of Morey. If someone without his intelligence and strategic vision attempts to be as reliant on the analytical side I think that may fail.
I just see a lot of comments and tweets suggesting that Rosas is like Morey, but his background suggests otherwise. Monte McNair is much more like Morey. Rosas is the scouting(eyeballs)/development guy on the Rockets, not the analytical-strategy person.
I do think he would implement an analytics based approach, but we would need him to bring a really bright analytics mind with him.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:49 pm to TigerinATL
Agree with that assessment. No one will be Morey but I imagine he’s learned enough to value it.
He’s pretty active with Sloan as well.
He’s pretty active with Sloan as well.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:51 pm to Fun Bunch
Going to go listen to this to try to get a better feel for him:
Draft Day Analytics
Draft Day Analytics
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:51 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Its the type of info that lots of Pelicans' fans following this process have wanted all along.
Yeah none of us would have enough info about the guy to say anything.
But it seems like a great move to bring him in to help.
Its the type of stuff we would've known about the second he was hired if it was the Saints. But its just a throwaway paragraph for Duncan in this article.
Duncan has a relationship with Gayle, Lauscha, and Loomis and i'm almost positive he has more info on whats going on than anybody else in media, but the Pelicans come off as a side project.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:51 pm to NOFOX
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I do think he would implement an analytics based approach, but we would need him to bring a really bright analytics mind with him.
That’s what I want to see. A basketball braintrust, not a solitary genius.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 4:59 pm to TigerinATL
Exactly and that’s something Mac has brought up repeatedly. One guy is great but you need a team of smart people.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:06 pm to NOFOX
quote:
Sure, but Houston is absurdly reliant on analytics because of Morey. If someone without his intelligence and strategic vision attempts to be as reliant on the analytical side I think that may fail.
I just see a lot of comments and tweets suggesting that Rosas is like Morey, but his background suggests otherwise. Monte McNair is much more like Morey. Rosas is the scouting(eyeballs)/development guy on the Rockets, not the analytical-strategy person.
I do think he would implement an analytics based approach, but we would need him to bring a really bright analytics mind with him.
Kerr and Myers don't have Comp Sci backgrounds either, but outside of Houston there probably isn't a better example of successfully incorporating analytics into a program from front office to the court than Golden State....Heck, they are arguably better at it than Houston has been.
I wouldn't compare him to Morey either, but he has demonstrated the range of core competencies you look for in a GM tasked with wholesale structural reform through most branches of an organization. And he has demonstrated success in many of those areas as well.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:07 pm to Bronc
fletch
quote:
NBA source on @PelicansNBA GM “Griffin & Ferry favorites since they’ve been there, done that and franchise needs someone to nail the Anthony Davis trade, not learn from it.”
FWIW, NOLA also likes Langdon a lot & search firm Pels hired has history w/Brooklyn, where Langdon is #2
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:08 pm to TigerinATL
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That’s what I want to see. A basketball braintrust, not a solitary genius.
Does Rosas have the breadth of connections having been with one organization his whole career and that organization doesn't really have an executive tree with Hinkie in exile?
I think the work at Sloan and with USA BAsketball gives him some of that.
Langdon has the Nets connection, the Duke connection, former player, and the massive Spurs executive/coaching tree.
Griffin is about as juiced up as they come with his strong connections to Kerr/Meyers and Jerry Colangelo and the executive/coahing tree from the Suns.
Ferry has the same Duke/Spurs connections plus a million others.
Harris is probably more connected than Griffin with the Warriors and his dad plus previous GM tenure.
Tommy SHepherd has been with Washington forever and is probably everyone's least favorite candidate, but Grunfield has loads of connections which is why Shepherd keeps getting interviewed in the first place.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:09 pm to cgrand
I honestly put almost negative stock into his supposed insider info.
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