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re: We get the 3rd pick in the draft
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:12 am to Crewz
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:12 am to Crewz
And just to be clear, they did not turn down multiple 1st rounders from one team for Ryno. They had offers of a future 1st rounder from at least 2 different teams and passed
What people need to understand is that many GM's think 2016 and 17 firsts will be far more valuable than 18 and beyond. The assumption is that the new CBA will drastically change rookie contracts, so teams are willing to part with 2018 picks more freely than 16 or 17
What people need to understand is that many GM's think 2016 and 17 firsts will be far more valuable than 18 and beyond. The assumption is that the new CBA will drastically change rookie contracts, so teams are willing to part with 2018 picks more freely than 16 or 17
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:16 am to Crewz
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The assumption is that the new CBA will drastically change rookie contracts, so teams are willing to part with 2018 picks more freely than 16 or 17
Really? The players are going to fight for more money/fewer years for rookies? With the veteran superstars now in key positions of the union?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:20 am to TigerinATL
The cap went way up and rookie contracts didn't. Both sides will be fine with it. The error was in not tying the contracts into a percentage of the cap. That will change
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:32 am to Crewz
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The error was in not tying the contracts into a percentage of the cap. That will change
I guess it changes the value equation some, but mostly for the top 5 guys where they actually make money. A #1 pick making $8.5 instead of $4.5 certainly increases the cost of busts. But picks in the 20s, the kind of picks we're likely talking about, probably go up about $1 million into the low $2s. I don't see how the value of those change much, especially if all of the other contracts like minimums get pegged to the cap as well. If teams are incorrectly devaluing their 2018 1sts it makes passing them up seem even more foolish.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:20 am to TigerinATL
I agree. If I was still writing, I would do a piece on how snatching up 2018 and beyond 1sts might be an efficiency. Zigging while zagging kind of thing
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:54 am to Crewz
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On average, 1.5 of the picks 31-40 become rotation players or better. Hoping that 39 and 40 both become actual players is a reach IMO. Odds say neither pick will matter, let alone both
In theory, some teams at the end of the 1st round could value 2 high 2nd round picks instead of that end of 1st round pick, due to guaranteed contracts. In theory, we could use those picks to get one of the last picks in the 1st round, if we really liked a guy, and say, the Spurs, don't want another guaranteed contract and don't have a stash in mind.
In theory.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:03 pm to TigerinATL
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If teams are incorrectly devaluing their 2018 1sts it makes passing them up seem even more foolish
I agree with y'all in general.
But in this context, I don't think Cleveland or Toronto are devaluing picks.
Cleveland is title or bust for as long as LeBron is around. They won't care about a mid 20s pick.
Toronto has a ton of young guys on the roster, the Knicks pick this year, and a Clippers lottery protected pick coming their way. They also might be shaking up their core this summer, making their own 17 pick more valuable.
To me, it says more about the value expiring Anderson had in 2016 NBA style and entering a likely $15M+ annual payday this summer
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:50 pm to Crewz
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And just to be clear, they did not turn down multiple 1st rounders from one team for Ryno. They had offers of a future 1st rounder from at least 2 different teams and passed
What people need to understand is that many GM's think 2016 and 17 firsts will be far more valuable than 18 and beyond. The assumption is that the new CBA will drastically change rookie contracts, so teams are willing to part with 2018 picks more freely than 16 or 17
Gotcha. That's still idiotic and classic Derps. '16 and '17 firsts may be better than an '18 first, but an '18 first >>>> a fart in a jar.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:31 pm to Jester
Chad Ford thinks we take Bender if we get the 3rd pick
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