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re: Anyone Surprised at How Devery Has come Around?
Posted on 7/9/09 at 1:44 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 7/9/09 at 1:44 pm to Chad504boy
of course he did...until you come in and lay the sonic boom on his arse 
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Posted on 7/9/09 at 2:07 pm to Edible Dirt
Devery has come a long way and IS a deep threat. There has been offseason interest in him from other teams as well. The people bitching about him would be the first ones complaining if he got traded.
I think he's progressed well and is getting passed the dropped balls.
I think he's progressed well and is getting passed the dropped balls.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 2:30 pm to Beaux
Don't forget that DH can work miracles
Posted on 7/9/09 at 2:35 pm to Mouth
nice 
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:07 pm to Chad504boy
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You do realize that lance had 47 more receptions than Devery last season and only had 135 more yards than what Devery was able to produce. THat's embarrassing. Devery could have had nearly 2,000 yards with 79 balls and here lance can't crack 1,000. Geesh... who watches the games now les985boy.
so a legit option next to Colston catches 30 balls?
how do you explain the TD differential?
come the frick on
id rather Moore catch balls, move the chains, catch an occasional long ball, and score more TD's. That's production to me. Not catching 2 balls a game.
If Devery was a legit option as a 2, he'd get more balls thrown to him. It's pretty simple. HE is good at what he does. WE dont need to push that if we dont have too.
This post was edited on 7/9/09 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
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so a legit option next to Colston catches 30 balls?
Moore was on the field a WHOLE lot more than Devery. Hard to produce when you are on the bench more than you are on the field. Devery producing wasn't the issue, it was the coach's putting him on the field.
I love guys who can get the job done in 37 catches that it takes other receivers 80 catches to do. Leaves more balls for the Reggie and Shockey's of the world.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:15 pm to Chad504boy
so you are saying Henderson had a better season than Moore last year?
why do you think this was?
wow
dont get carried away
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Hard to produce when you are on the bench more than you are on the field
why do you think this was?
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I love guys who can get the job done in 37 catches that it takes other receivers 80 catches to do
wow
dont get carried away
This post was edited on 7/9/09 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:28 pm to Chad504boy
agreed chad. plus, lester is basing everything off of past seasons which is fine. but what we are saying here, is that he is being put in a bigger role right now in OTAs and camp and he is impressing everyone including Brees/Payton. that's what we are talking here. if he plays like a #2, catches and runs routes like a #2, then why the hell are you (lester) so opposed to him having a bigger role?
we are not saying just immediately throw him in the #2, but if he earns it, then why would it be a bad thing? if he can run the short, intermediate routes moore does, but still burn bitches for 30-80, why the hell would you not want him in there playing a larger role?
we are not saying just immediately throw him in the #2, but if he earns it, then why would it be a bad thing? if he can run the short, intermediate routes moore does, but still burn bitches for 30-80, why the hell would you not want him in there playing a larger role?
This post was edited on 7/9/09 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:37 pm to Lester Earl
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so you are saying Henderson had a better season than Moore last year?
No I'm not. I'm saying he was more effective though.
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why do you think this was?
Well, Devery had to prove himself over the season for the coach's to trust him. Last year was one of the first year's where Devery has shown Coach that he can be trusted in key situations. Lets not forget all the sexual favors Lance was doing for Drew since last offseason. Drew likes him some black latino mix...
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dont get carried away
lets act like lance and fall down.
This post was edited on 7/9/09 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:43 pm to Chad504boy
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No I'm not. I'm saying he was more effective though.
Wouldnt that make him better?
Guess we have different definitions of effective.
Catching 80 balls and 10 TD's is pretty effective to me.
Efficient is maybe the word you are looking for. That's a lot of yards for so few catches. Thats what he is good at though. The deep ball. But even then efficiency can be marked in different ways.
But he wasnt more effective than Lance Moore who was our top WR weapon last year.
That's stupid to even say my man.
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lets act like lance and fall down.
sexual favors?
:confused:
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:46 pm to Lester Earl
Lester:
You have the option of having 2 RB's.
RB A rushes for 1000 yards in 150 carries
RB B rushes for 1000 yards in 300 carries
Who do you want?
Don't be scared.... answer it..... answer it..... then wait for it... wait for it.....
You have the option of having 2 RB's.
RB A rushes for 1000 yards in 150 carries
RB B rushes for 1000 yards in 300 carries
Who do you want?
Don't be scared.... answer it..... answer it..... then wait for it... wait for it.....
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:48 pm to whodatfan
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is that he is being put in a bigger role right now in OTAs and camp
Moore and Colston are both recovering from injury. Of course he has a bigger role.
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if he plays like a #2, catches and runs routes like a #2, then why the hell are you (lester) so opposed to him having a bigger role?
Im not opposed at all. I'll be really happy if he makes that huge jump. I just dont think it will happen.
When i said we'd be in trouble, it is because people will have to be injured for him to grab the #2 spot. At least in my eyes. It's a broader picture than just Devery Henderson himself when i made that comment.
It's like saying, "Oh, what if Mark Brunnell has a great camp and pushed Brees for the job".
i'd think we'd be fricked, wouldnt you?
or you do think because Brunnell had a great camp and OTAs that he is good enough to lead this team as well as Brees?
strictly hypothetical, but that is the road your argument is taking
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:51 pm to Chad504boy
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You have the option of having 2 RB's.
RB A rushes for 1000 yards in 150 carries
RB B rushes for 1000 yards in 300 carries
chad, there are many other factors you would have to weigh in this scenario. Quit being so simple minded, you make Rummel Alums look stupid.
The same way Devery is one dimensional, is the same way the RB with 150 carries could be 1 dimensional. He could be a 3rd down back, and thrive in that role.
this is just a horrible example.
If that were the case, Devery would have been turned into our #1 WR 2-3 years ago.
20+YPC!!!! OMG!!!!!
Posted on 7/9/09 at 3:52 pm to Chad504boy
Devery is easily one of my favorite Saints. He's a Louisiana boy from LSU, he stayed loyal to us when he could of left, and he's just a good guy all around.
I actually like the role DH has now, and wouldn't want to change it too much. As long as Colston and Moore are healthy then DH doesn't need a bigger role than the one he's been playing. If DH turned into an every down, possession receiver then I think that it would take away from what other teams respect about him.
even though I think DH has the ability to be more than just a deep threat/go route type receiver, I'd still rather that he stay and play the roll he's been playing....not to many teams can say they have a receiver with 4.3 speed and good height who doesn't bitch about his role on the team.
DH is getting better & better with every season and I think he is capable of filling the #2 spot if necessary. So with that said, lets just sit back and enjoy what he brings to the Saints. Whether its 30 catches or 70 catches as long as its for NOLA.
I actually like the role DH has now, and wouldn't want to change it too much. As long as Colston and Moore are healthy then DH doesn't need a bigger role than the one he's been playing. If DH turned into an every down, possession receiver then I think that it would take away from what other teams respect about him.
even though I think DH has the ability to be more than just a deep threat/go route type receiver, I'd still rather that he stay and play the roll he's been playing....not to many teams can say they have a receiver with 4.3 speed and good height who doesn't bitch about his role on the team.
DH is getting better & better with every season and I think he is capable of filling the #2 spot if necessary. So with that said, lets just sit back and enjoy what he brings to the Saints. Whether its 30 catches or 70 catches as long as its for NOLA.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:10 pm to Lester Earl
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chad, there are many other factors you would have to weigh in this scenario. Quit being so simple minded, you make Rummel Alums look stupid.
The same way Devery is one dimensional, is the same way the RB with 150 carries could be 1 dimensional. He could be a 3rd down back, and thrive in that role.
this is just a horrible example.
If that were the case, Devery would have been turned into our #1 WR 2-3 years ago.
20+YPC!!!! OMG!!!!!
We can talk about any factor you want.
I would go on to say that Lance Moore is MOORE one dimensional than what Devery is.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:12 pm to Mouth
Well said mouth. And I agree. Lester, I never said he would just step right over moore. And I KNOW he is getting the snaps because those two are recovering (but thanks for pointing that out, coach). I think he is capable of being a #2 if he is asked to, ok? that is all. He is a great football player, and a good team player. He does what is asked of him. He has steadily been progressing, not regressing. If, for any reason those two get hurt, I am confident he can play the position.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:17 pm to Chad504boy
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I would go on to say that Lance Moore is MOORE one dimensional than what Devery is.
No way in hell, but even if you want to look at it like that, what he does is more valuable than what Devery does.
make big catches, scores TD's, moves the chains with 1st downs, and also proved to be a decent deep threat on occasion last year.
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We can talk about any factor you want.
maybe you should have thought about that before your stupid example.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:20 pm to Lester Earl
Lance can thank Devery for pulling double teams down the field that leaves him open on the 10 yard out for the first down.
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:20 pm to whodatfan
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. And I KNOW he is getting the snaps because those two are recovering
obviously you didnt, because you wouldnt be holding him in so high regard for getting all these snaps in OTAs
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He is a great football player
Great?
see, if this is why you call me negative, then so be it.
but that is just being a huge homer to call him a great player.
If he is great, then what is Drew Brees? Or Colston? Or pro bowl caliber players? shite even a guy like Moore who is better than Henderson but not on Colston's level?
you wonder why i get called negative...sorry, i just have to correct this dumb saintard bullshite sometimes
Posted on 7/9/09 at 4:29 pm to Lester Earl
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but that is just being a huge homer to call him a great player.
If he is great, then what is Drew Brees? Or Colston? Or pro bowl caliber players? shite even a guy like Moore who is better than Henderson but not on Colston's level?
you wonder why i get called negative...sorry, i just have to correct this dumb saintard bullshite sometimes
how many guys can shut down devery? come on you frickstick, how many? how wide arse fricking open is he pretty much everytime downfield? huh, douchebag saintard frick? man, i sure am tired of correcting these fricking saintard dumbasses. damn, my intelligence is light years beyond any of these homers saint dumb fricks. Geez, I need to go stare at myself in the mirror and admire myself for a second. Damn, I have a chubby. I'll be right back.....
:Lester leaves room momentarily:
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