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re: reggie bush is not a bust.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:20 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:20 pm to Lester Earl
i haven't called reggie a bust
but he hasn't lived up to expectations (if you wanna do it by salary, expectations, or hype...however)
people say he's not traditional, well i say payton has made bush and made up for his weaknesses
i think there are a bunch of guys who could do what reggie does from scrimmage if they were given this opportunity
but he hasn't lived up to expectations (if you wanna do it by salary, expectations, or hype...however)
people say he's not traditional, well i say payton has made bush and made up for his weaknesses
i think there are a bunch of guys who could do what reggie does from scrimmage if they were given this opportunity
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Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:21 pm to el tigre
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id you see how we failed to pick up Winfield on the blitz where he destroyed Brees? that was on purpose. We were setting up the Vikings defense to throw a screen pass to Bush 37 plays later.
Oh come on. I'm not saying that Bush got tacked on a punt return on purpose. I'm saying that when that move didn't work the first time, he learned from it and kicked it upfield.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:22 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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I'm saying that when that move didn't work the first time, he learned from it
dude
if there's 1 thing you cannot say reggie does, it's learn from his mistakes due to his style
he does the same stuff now that he did in 2006 and 2007
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:23 pm to AlejandroInHouston
You say this:
Yet then say this:
Hysterical.
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This is so fricking disingenuous that it almost defies belief.
Yet then say this:
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and he had 2 poor returns - one of them he used to set up his later TD return. He used the opposite fake next time out and it worked. Almost like a boxer feigning a jab and then using it in a later round to open a gashing combo.
Hysterical.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:23 pm to AlejandroInHouston
Reggie Bush is the 2008 version of Eric Metcalf. Payton is not using him correctly by putting hinm in the I and pitching it to him.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:27 pm to BBATiger
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Payton is not using him correctly by putting hinm in the I and pitching it to him.
the only way bush can get to the outside is if the D over-accounts for him up the middle. last year Ds did start using less and less LBs up the middle, and it hurt his receiving #s on the outside
i still don't know why teams don't just sub in another DB to cover reggie anytime he's in the game
This post was edited on 10/7/08 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:28 pm to BBATiger
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Reggie Bush is the 2008 version of Eric Metcalf. Payton is not using him correctly by putting hinm in the I and pitching it to him.
good comparison....but Metcalf still had better yards per rush and reception than Bush.
Granted, Metcalf was very good.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:28 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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I'm saying that when that move didn't work the first time, he learned from it and kicked it upfield.
Reggie has been running sideways/backwards since day one. It's a lot of peoples' biggest gripe with him.
On the three returns last night that he basically just caught the ball and took off, good things happened.
He tries to make the "big play" every time. And more often than not, it hurts his team.
The problem is when he eventually does do something spectacular, most Saints fans immediately forget about his shortcomings and all is forgiven.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the only way bush can get to the outside is if the D over-accounts for him up the middle. last year Ds did start using less and less LBs up the middle, and it hurt his receiving #s on the outside
Exactly. Without a legit running game (which the Saints haven't had for a while now), Reggie can't be as successful, because he shies away from contact (unlike a between the tackles runner) and tries to get around the outside. Even on plays designed for him to run straight, 99% of the time, he doesn't.
It sucks that he is not a Brian Westbrook...someone who can be the running and receiving threat. But he's not, and until the Saints can get a legit "RB" in teh backfield, they will struggle to run the ball (or "run" the ball).
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:34 pm to Lester Earl
people try to look at reggie as strictly a rb. that he is not. he does lose yards sometimes, but his great plays far outweigh his loss of yards (i'm talking about this season, btw). What would the score have been last night without reggie? We wouldn't have been in the Denver game without him, and we would have lost to tampa if not for his td catch, which might be the best play of the season so far.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 2:46 pm to PortCityTiger24
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people try to look at reggie as strictly a rb.
BUT WHERE WOULD HE BE LISTED IF HE WAS DESIGNATED AS A FRANCHISE PLAYER!!!>!>!>!>!>#R$>#>$@#
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:05 pm to Lester Earl
for all intents and purposes, reggie is a RB
tell me how he's not a RB
he lines up as a RB
he runs the ball more than any non-RB in the NFL
he runs passing routes of a RB
tell me how he's not a RB
he lines up as a RB
he runs the ball more than any non-RB in the NFL
he runs passing routes of a RB
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
he is definitely a RB, just not in the literal sense
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:27 pm to Lester Earl
ok let me put my feelings another way
if reggie could run the ball for a respectable average...say 4.5 ypc or so, do you think he'd get thrown to as much, or do you think he'd get the ball in running situations more?
if reggie could run the ball for a respectable average...say 4.5 ypc or so, do you think he'd get thrown to as much, or do you think he'd get the ball in running situations more?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if reggie could run the ball for a respectable average...say 4.5 ypc or so, do you think he'd get thrown to as much, or do you think he'd get the ball in running situations more?
If wes welker had a better ypc average, would he run more fade routs or would he still run quick slants?
This post was edited on 10/7/08 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:37 pm to PortCityTiger24
welker isn't some hybrid position that is trying to be defined
and you're arguing changing his style and usage
we're not talking about changing what reggie does, just what % of each thing he does
and you're arguing changing his style and usage
we're not talking about changing what reggie does, just what % of each thing he does
This post was edited on 10/7/08 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
and?
anyone who thought that reggie was going to be a brusing rb is a retard anyway.
anyone who thought that reggie was going to be a brusing rb is a retard anyway.
This post was edited on 10/7/08 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if reggie could run the ball for a respectable average...say 4.5 ypc or so, do you think he'd get thrown to as much, or do you think he'd get the ball in running situations more?
he ran the ball at USC for 8 something a carry, but they still threw too him a lot.
Brian Westbrook runs the ball effectively, as did a guy like Marshall Faulk, and they still caught/catch a shite ton of balls.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:40 pm to PortCityTiger24
it's a bad point
if reggie would run the ball more efficiently, would he run the ball more and get thrown to less?
not, if reggie had more ypr, should he run more deep routes?
if reggie would run the ball more efficiently, would he run the ball more and get thrown to less?
not, if reggie had more ypr, should he run more deep routes?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's a bad point
purposly
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