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re: Typical BUM Saints front office. Day 2 will be a bust !
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:05 am to RelocatedPelican
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:05 am to RelocatedPelican
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You can't tell MidgetDickSyndrome anything; he read it on the interweb were you were wrong! And the Saints like him and they can do no wrong! Superbowl!
riiiiight. and the rest of the world should listen to one little amoeba who thinks he knows everything there is about every player in college football.
Dude, it's you and BamaBaby against the rest of the world. What can you offer us that makes you so right and everyone else so wrong?
go
where someone actually cares about your daft opinions, like maybe Congress
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Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:07 am to RelocatedPelican
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You can't tell MidgetDickSyndrome anything; he read it on the interweb were you were wrong! And the Saints like him and they can do no wrong! Superbowl!
and where have you read he can't play CB?
The interwebz. Unless you have been sitting in on some NFL draft committee meetings, which I doubt.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:12 am to LSUtigahs28
Sure thing MidgetDick, this from Deuce985
No he didn't, I believe he ran a 4.4 something. Regardless, OSU has a fast track so you have to knock a little off his 40 time.
40 time is usually overrated but its not for a CB. They usually have to be the fastest, most athletic players on the field. They're at a disadvantage itself due to NFL rules now, so the big/physical CBs aren't in high demand as they use to be. Remember the days when Eagles receivers were getting violently bumped at the line of scrimmage and they couldn't do dick? Those are long over.
Jenkins will sit in a Cover 2 scheme or a FS, he'll never be a Man CB, period. So unless the Saints move to a Zone scheme, I don't think we'll see him much at CB. And hes too much of a risk at FS. Him being called "versatile" is just another way of saying he has no true defined position because he has too many question marks, IMO.
The non Jenkins list is many, believe that.
No he didn't, I believe he ran a 4.4 something. Regardless, OSU has a fast track so you have to knock a little off his 40 time.
40 time is usually overrated but its not for a CB. They usually have to be the fastest, most athletic players on the field. They're at a disadvantage itself due to NFL rules now, so the big/physical CBs aren't in high demand as they use to be. Remember the days when Eagles receivers were getting violently bumped at the line of scrimmage and they couldn't do dick? Those are long over.
Jenkins will sit in a Cover 2 scheme or a FS, he'll never be a Man CB, period. So unless the Saints move to a Zone scheme, I don't think we'll see him much at CB. And hes too much of a risk at FS. Him being called "versatile" is just another way of saying he has no true defined position because he has too many question marks, IMO.
The non Jenkins list is many, believe that.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:14 am to bamablows
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Deuce985
:omg:
I've changed my mind some forum poster on the interwebz doesn't like Jenkins.
Forum posters didn't like Matt Ryan either.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:18 am to LSUtigahs28
LINK
b]Malcolm Jenkins' lackluster 4.55 second 40 yard dash time at the NFL Combine may have sealed his fate as an NFL safety. [/b] This still doesn't take him out of the first round, but he is likely to slip out of the top ten overall picks.
Malcolm Jenkins did little to show scouts he can play corner in the NFL. He ran just a 4.53 second 40 yard dash at his Pro Day workout in Columbus. He is, however, the best safety prospect in the draft and will likely go between picks 14 and 21.
Yeah, I guess we non Jenkins at CB guys just picked this out of the air.
b]Malcolm Jenkins' lackluster 4.55 second 40 yard dash time at the NFL Combine may have sealed his fate as an NFL safety. [/b] This still doesn't take him out of the first round, but he is likely to slip out of the top ten overall picks.
Malcolm Jenkins did little to show scouts he can play corner in the NFL. He ran just a 4.53 second 40 yard dash at his Pro Day workout in Columbus. He is, however, the best safety prospect in the draft and will likely go between picks 14 and 21.
Yeah, I guess we non Jenkins at CB guys just picked this out of the air.
This post was edited on 4/26/09 at 11:21 am
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:19 am to bamablows
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Yeah, I guess we non Jenkins at CB guys just picked this out of the air.
Again in English please?
and link?
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:20 am to LSUtigahs28
Sorry Senor Pulitzer, there's your link.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:21 am to bamablows
Bottom line, we dont need you as a Saints fan, go be a Cowboys fan, they are used to little arse bitchy fans.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:21 am to bamablows
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this from Deuce985
you are quoting Deuce985? Am I seeing this right?
frick, man, I grow tired of your crybaby act. Here's the bottom line....
Jenkins is a CB who can play a versatile role as either a CB or S. Of course there will be some people out there who believe he's better fit at Safety, but there are just as many if not more that believe he is a CB. That is why they have opinions. I personally don't care if he's a CB or a FS, as long as he is a valuable player on this team. If he doesn't start this year, no problem. Troy Polamalu didn't start one game as a rookie! Too many experts believe that Jenkins is the best CB in the draft this year for us to just brush him off as a wash. Speed is overrated at the CB position. Is it a nice asset? Of course. But if you have ever played the position, then you'd know the two main attributes that are required to be an effective CB is recognition skills and angles. When you know how to recognize and adjust to routes and to take the proper angles to cut off those routes, then you can be a good CB. Physically, you need good hips and an ability to backpedal effectively so that you can keep your eyes on the WR, QB and field while keping coverage.
Speed is necessary for recovery when you get beat and to keep up for any deep routes. The difference between 4.54 and 4.45 is almost insignificant though, and running in pads changes the nature of the shorts/shirt 40 time.
You need to get over yourself, because you have created this image of you that is one of a Whiney arse Little Pussy, and you have made many enemies on this board.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:21 am to bamablows
Thanks.
The nfl.com link > fftoolbox.com
Also can you tell me what
Means? Because that shite is just babble right now.
The nfl.com link > fftoolbox.com
Also can you tell me what
quote:
Yeah, I guess we non Jenkins at CB guys just picked this out of the air.
Means? Because that shite is just babble right now.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:39 am to LSUtigahs28
I didn't read that he couldn't play CB - I made my own evaluation watching his games that he's not nearly as good as folks say he is at any position in the secondary.
There's no sense in talking to SmallPants; he's ignoring reality again. "Its just you and bamablows"...and SFP and countless others; just see the first page threads. Total fail, again.
There's no sense in talking to SmallPants; he's ignoring reality again. "Its just you and bamablows"...and SFP and countless others; just see the first page threads. Total fail, again.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:46 am to RelocatedPelican
Ah Midget getting a little testy huh? I guess you just can't deal that there is more than one of "us" out there that really don't like this pick. Go back to B and G you poser!
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:48 am to RelocatedPelican
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I didn't read that he couldn't play CB - I made my own evaluation watching his games that he's not nearly as good as folks say he is at any position in the secondary.
Oh so this is a RP special.
Even worse.
I don't expect Jenkins to be a shutdown, but I think he has potential at the #2 CB spot or S his versatility is the best part of the pick.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:49 am to bamablows
This is for all yall negaSaints:
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:50 am to grif82
Say hi to Buddy D when you die and tell him you were the president of the Saints SQUIRREL Fan Club. 
Posted on 4/26/09 at 11:59 am to bamablows
Bitch.....you and the rest of your ilk would absolutely fit the bill of a "Squirrel" according to Buddy D.
god damn know it alls think they know more than just about every draft guru, interweb evaluators, and the Saint's coaches/FO
Go fly a kite......jackass!!!!!
Your opinion mean jack shite to real Saints fans GTFO GFY
god damn know it alls think they know more than just about every draft guru, interweb evaluators, and the Saint's coaches/FO
Go fly a kite......jackass!!!!!
Your opinion mean jack shite to real Saints fans GTFO GFY
Posted on 4/26/09 at 12:03 pm to grif82
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The three-cone drill seems to be a much better measuring stick for corners then any other drill at the combine (even the 40-yard dash). To illustrate this point, let’s take a look at two similar cornerback prospects from last year’s draft. The first is Virginia Tech product, Brandon Flowers, a 5-foot-10, 189-pound corner who clocked in with a very average 4.55 40, but impressed scouts with a 6.72-second three-cone drill. The second prospect is Justin King from Penn State. King, a 5-11, 192-pounder ran a blistering 4.31 40-time. However, he also ran one of the slower three-cone drills at the combine among cornerbacks at 7.14 seconds. The significant difference (.42 seconds) of the two times displays a dramatic advantage in body control, balance and change-of-direction skills for Flowers, a trait far more valuable to the CB position then straight-line speed.
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1. Malcolm Jenkins: Ohio State (6-0, 204) (Three-cone drill: 6.59) So much has been made about Jenkins’ lack of top end speed. However, he displays the balance, footwork and quickness to always make a play on the ball. Jenkins plays much faster than his 40 time (4.51) would indicate and his impressive three-cone drill is a direct result of that. I still feel Jenkins is too talented of a cover man to move to safety and this three-cone type quickness consistently shows up on film.
BOOM BITCHES!!!!!!! GET THAT shite OUTTA HERE!!!!!! Link for all yall so-called know it alls
This post was edited on 4/26/09 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 4/26/09 at 6:31 pm to grif82
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The three-cone drill seems to be a much better measuring stick for corners then any other drill
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1. Malcolm Jenkins: Ohio State (6-0, 204) (Three-cone drill: 6.59) So much has been made about Jenkins’ lack of top end speed. However, he displays the balance, footwork and quickness to always make a play on the ball. Jenkins plays much faster than his 40 time (4.51) would indicate and his impressive three-cone drill is a direct result of that. I still feel Jenkins is too talented of a cover man to move to safety and this three-cone type quickness consistently shows up on film.
Funny how after this post, none of the belligerent Saint Haters (that's you I'm referring to, Bamablows and RelocatedPelican) had anything left to say. I am only responding to this in order to bump this thread, because everyone else needs to see the immature ignorance of these two pud-pullers.
Nice post, frif82. 40 time isn't the most important asset of a CB.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 6:48 pm to bamablows
Gregg Williams has run the cover 2 in the past and it will probably be a big part of the secondary this year. He's already said he's going to use alot of different packages and thus, needs flexible DBs.
And he's run the cover 2 so much so that the media in either Buffalo or Washington said he was an idiot for continuing to run it.
And he's run the cover 2 so much so that the media in either Buffalo or Washington said he was an idiot for continuing to run it.
Posted on 4/26/09 at 6:53 pm to Ryan5231
Nothing to say because the post is pointless; he failed in his 4 biggest games & has 'wasted pick' written all over him, like the rest of the Saints' picks this year. Loomis needs to go.
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