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re: 2026 State Tax Competitiveness: More Bad News!
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:quote:Every tax expert disagrees with you but carry onquote:This is an idiotic take. There’s nothing inherent to favoring sales taxes over other forms of taxation that necessitates the total taxation regime being higher.quote:
Sales taxes are among the most “fair” of all possible taxation regimes. Everyone, from poors to illegals, pays sales taxes. Why would it bother me?
Because the government takes more of you money and has more control over your behavior that way.
But unsurprising from a Louisianan, most love being governed
quote:quote:Look into the tax foundation, the organization from my link
Citation?
You state every tax expert agrees with your point on sales taxes but then only list your own link in OP as proof which does not really say what you are stating.
Weight of taxes towards towards calculating competitive score in your link is:
Individual income taxes 31.8%
Sales Taxes 21.2%
Corporate Taxes 21.1%
Property Taxes 14.5%
Unemployment Insurance 11.4%
Oregon and Delaware on in the top 5 for sales tax with Oregon dropping below Louisiana in total score and Delaware dropping to 24th for other taxes.
The site mentions competitive score is closer to Wins Above Replacement with weight based on variances between states and opportunity to improve.
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Tax competition is a little like WAR—not conflict, but Wins Above Replacement. The term comes from baseball, where it is intended as a sabermetric statistic to measure how many more wins a team can claim due to a specific player above the amount that would be generated by a replacement-level player. It’s much the same way in public finance: a well-structured tax code won’t make the Wyoming Basin a metropolis, nor will poor tax structure make Manhattan a ghost town. But tax structure does play a role in a state’s economic successes or failures, and often a substantial one. Every state can benefit from a simple, neutral, transparent, pro-growth tax structure.
The Index scores states across five subindices, each representing a major component of state tax codes: corporate taxes, individual income taxes, sales and excise taxes, property and wealth taxes, and unemployment insurance taxes. Rather than weighting each subindex equally, their weight is determined according to the variance across states in each category, which has the effect of assigning more weight to areas where states have more opportunities in which to compete.
It’s not measuring or comparing total tax $ paid (total or by category), tax $ per capita (total or by category), or tax burden. It’s is pushing where states lower in ranking can make bigger impacts on improving competitiveness.
Here is most recent the per capita map i found at your link
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-local-tax-collections-per-capita/ Most recent tax burden map I found at your link
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/tax-burden-by-state-2022/This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:05 pm
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I spend about 50%/50% of my life in TX/LA right now.
Grew up in SE LA.
Most of working life in Houston.
Data set critically misses the soul tax.
Living in concrete jungle Houston (and my consistent experience in vanity/material Dallas) is effectively a 10% flat tax on one’s soul, maybe higher— like laser on grape shrivel to raisin…soul. No thanks!
Now, San Antonio / Austin and TX Hill Country…I tip my hat (I-35 traffic aside). Great place(s)!
Returned to LA for holidays, with fresh comparison experience of TX and SE LA…conclusion, keep out of my SE LA soul. But will happily take my soul to SA-Austin and TX Hill Country and enjoy dat part of TX 7.
Beware of “data” and suspicious of subject matter experts who only dance on tables when “standard deduction” is played on jukebox.
Grew up in SE LA.
Most of working life in Houston.
Data set critically misses the soul tax.
Living in concrete jungle Houston (and my consistent experience in vanity/material Dallas) is effectively a 10% flat tax on one’s soul, maybe higher— like laser on grape shrivel to raisin…soul. No thanks!
Now, San Antonio / Austin and TX Hill Country…I tip my hat (I-35 traffic aside). Great place(s)!
Returned to LA for holidays, with fresh comparison experience of TX and SE LA…conclusion, keep out of my SE LA soul. But will happily take my soul to SA-Austin and TX Hill Country and enjoy dat part of TX 7.
Beware of “data” and suspicious of subject matter experts who only dance on tables when “standard deduction” is played on jukebox.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:07 pm to Joshjrn
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So no citation for the nonsensical proposition that type of taxation is inherently linked to total rate of taxation. Shocked
Look at all of the consumption tax literature by the tax foundation and how Europe and the rest of the world operates. It’s not that hard to
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Look at all of the consumption tax literature by the tax foundation and how Europe and the rest of the world operates. It’s not that hard to
Watch this four hour long YouTube video, bro. It’s all in there, bro.
If you have a citation, give it. I’m not going fishing for it
Eta: Looks like Dallastigers is doing god’s work up there and used your own source to contradict you. Fun times
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:14 pm to Adajax
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My high sales tax takes a lot less of my money than your property tax.
My state tax burden when I lived in Texas was A LOT less than what my tax burden to Louisiana currently is. And the house I had in Texas was assessed higher than what my current house in Louisiana is assessed at.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:17 pm to Joshjrn
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Sales taxes are among the most “fair” of all possible taxation regimes. Everyone, from poors to illegals, pays sales taxes. Why would it bother me?
Hell no. Probably one of the easiest to abuse and shape behavior to the government’s liking.
Property taxes are by far the fairest. Everyone pays those.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:20 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Hell no. Probably one of the easiest to abuse and shape behavior to the government’s liking.
You can do that with anything, creating exceptions and carve outs. I’m talking about a plain Jane sales tax. No special treatment.
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Property taxes are by far the fairest. Everyone pays those.
I’m philosophically opposed to giving the State the right to steal my owned property if I don’t pay them their rent on time. Further, as a practical matter, while everyone pays it, renters don’t think they pay it, which then creates bad policy.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:25 pm to Joshjrn
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Looks like Dallastigers is doing god’s work up there and used your own source to contradict you. Fun times
You can’t use their weighting of the consumption tax when it’s only a piece of the pie in the American tax system… which is why I said look at Europe where there are rates in the 40% range.
You usually aren’t this dumb
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:27 pm to Joshjrn
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Further, as a practical matter, while everyone pays it, renters don’t think they pay it, which then creates bad policy.
You’re grasping hard
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:28 pm to Joshjrn
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I’m philosophically opposed to giving the State the right to steal my owned property if I don’t pay them their rent on time.
That’s fine. I’m philosophically opposed to taxing productivity and general commerce.
Taxing property encourages productivity. Taxing income and sales discourages productivity.
Look at Europe. They tax the frick out of income and sales and they don’t produce shite. Goddamn Mississippi has a more productive economy per capita than pretty much every EU country and England.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Hey dude, look…. You have to pay high sales taxes. That’s the only way we can give Fifty Cent $50 million and let all these data centers use all the ground water, drive up everyone’s energy costs and get ITEP and 20 year sales tax exemptions all at the same time.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Look at Europe. They tax the frick out of income and sales and they don’t produce shite. Goddamn Mississippi has a bigger economy than pretty much every EU country and England.
BUT ITS FAIR
Except for many states don’t tax non profits or manufacturing or certain services or governments or data centers
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You can’t use their weighting of the consumption tax when it’s only a piece of the pie in the American tax system… which is why I said look at Europe where there are rates in the 40% range. You usually aren’t this dumb
Your citation to nation states with both high consumption taxes and high total tax regimes isn’t evidence of causation in the slightest.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:51 pm to Joshjrn
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Your citation to nation states with both high consumption taxes and high total tax regimes isn’t evidence of causation in the slightest.
“These don’t count because they don’t agree with me”
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s fine. I’m philosophically opposed to taxing productivity and general commerce.
I’m philosophically opposed to fricking taxes as a categorical, so believe me, I get it
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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“These don’t count because they don’t agree with me”
Speaking of normally not being this dumb…
Spend a bit of time brushing up on correlation and causation. Then maybe you can come back to the adult table
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:01 pm to Joshjrn
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I’m philosophically opposed to fricking taxes as a categorica
So you’re a retard, cool
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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So you’re a retard, cool
Puss
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:18 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
It ain't what you make, it's what you spend. Sorry you live beyond your means.
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:21 pm to Adajax
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It ain't what you make, it's what you spend. Sorry you live beyond your means.
I pay no income tax and my property tax is 1.2% of my gross income
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