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re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:41 pm to moncouer
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:41 pm to moncouer
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(From my understanding, the industrial load can supply power back to the grid)
This is true. For example, if an industrial builds a power plant on site to serve their 700 MW load, but they are projected to use 400MW that season (MISO accredits capacity per season), they can sale the additional 300MW of capacity and any energy injected back to the grid, if accredited by the RTO.
This can be true of data centers that build their own generation as well, and where this is headed.
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More nat gas (CCGT) plants will be built as these can respond to load fluctuations and provide voltage control
Yes, and battery storage is being located at Solar facilities that can peak shave as well.
Keep in mind, these large load requirements are scaled. If a data center is requiring 500MW of capacity, their first year may only be 100 (I know, I said only....), but will build out 500 by year 7-10. If they get there. This will help planning and grid stability.
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Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:43 pm to moncouer
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Depreciation is actually taken over 30 years, not 15 years. Without PPA disclosures, it is difficult to determine capacity and energy recoveries through rates.
This is an important point. If META is giving Entergy 15 years worth of build and maintenance cost, once that is over, the useful life of the plants being build will be covered by consumers. Guess what happens as unit age? They become increasingly costly to maintain. This is an oversight by the PSC and other governing bodies.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:50 pm to SaintEB
Not arguing with grid stability - between actual natural gas power buildout and battery storage (for solar). MISO constraints between north to south grid limits and the increased power supply costs because of increases in fuel supply are a consideration. Also, increases in Transmission line costs and distribution ops center and distribution ops costs.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:00 pm to NFLSU
quote:You joke, but MMR is diving head first into data centers lately. Thier profits directly are good for LSU NIL, as seen in the Kiffin kidnapping
10% of all profits go to LSU’s NIL.
Great to finally have a Republican in charge.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:15 pm to SaintEB
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This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 7:38 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:22 pm to Dixie2023
quote:hard for anything to ruin Louisiana more than Louisiana already ruining Louisiana
Not a troll. It’s concerning. Maybe they won’t cause harm or increase in utilities and water, or harm our water or land. Or us. But we don’t know.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:33 pm to SaintEB
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This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 7:38 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:44 pm to The Egg
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targeting 540 full time jobs
yea I don't believe that. Most of these I've read about have like 5-10 people working onsite max. There are a ton of construction jobs while the thing is getting built, and then they peace out.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:12 am to Play_Neck
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This post was edited on 2/26/26 at 7:39 am
Posted on 2/24/26 at 12:37 am to SaintEB
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This is an important point. If META is giving Entergy 15 years worth of build and maintenance cost, once that is over, the useful life of the plants being build will be covered by consumers. Guess what happens as unit age? They become increasingly costly to maintain.
So from an Entergy stockholder perspective, buy Entergy on the near term 5-10 years, but sell before META says this power plant is now your problem. Of course META would still be one of Entergy’s largest customers so they too would be on the hook of increased electric costs or they would need to close the site.
With all this planned future growth of natty gas electric power plants, are we sure there is enough supply over the next 2 decades or will there come a time that maybe a plant should be flexible in fuel choices? Could we get burned $$$ by a shortage of gas and we need to reverse those LNG plants to import natty gas back into the country including from countries that hate us?
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:05 am to Tarps99
I’ll come back to this thread when not on mobile but I wanted to drop this here in case some of you haven’t heard yet.
Amazon Data Center
Amazon Data Center
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:13 am to Jdiggy
The 70% number includes natural gas and petroleum fuels. The electricity part is further down.
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Louisiana ranks third among the states with the highest total electricity consumption on a per capita basis.92 In 2024, the industrial sector consumed the most electricity in Louisiana, accounting for about 44% of the state total, followed by the residential sector at 32% and the commercial sector at 24%.93 Louisiana has the highest residential sector per capita electricity consumption in the nation.94 About 6 in 10 state households rely on electricity for home heating and almost all households have air conditioning
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:29 am to Hangit
I’ve alot of folks talking about their gas bills. Apparently, New Orleans now has Delta Gas instead of Entergy. Delta is a PE firm and bills have sky rocketed. PE has no place in utilities. Who was it that said we would own nothing and like it? Won’t be long before basic necessities are unaffordable for many. These data centers that Landry is calling “tech centers” can’t be a positive. Things will go even higher for the consumer. Hopefully, Florida is smarter and says no.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:35 am to nicholastiger
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Entergy about to rape us all on top of future hurricane replacement costs
You do know that there are more than one electric company in the state right?
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:39 am to carhartt
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You do know that there are more than one electric company in the state right?
Ill just use the power from the other providers.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:46 am to carhartt
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You do know that there are more than one electric company in the state right?
While there are many power companies in the state, there is one common denominator, Entergy and MISO run the wholesale market and Entergy primarily runs the high voltage interstate transmission network.
There are some exceptions, but Entergy’s hand runs deep in Louisiana.
It is not as crazy as some places in Texas where Centerpoint runs the lines to your house, but you can choose from a cornucopia of providers that offer different rate plans.
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 6:49 am
Posted on 2/24/26 at 7:39 am to Antib551
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Thier profits directly are good for LSU NIL
Oh thank gawd, I was losing sleep over how LSU will pay Kiffin!!!!!!!!!! Sheesh
Posted on 2/24/26 at 7:50 am to Dixie2023
It is confusing how everyone knows that these eventually end up taking all the water and raising everyone' electric bills, but people still see the benefit. This and carbon capture are truly an example of the right swinging the pendulum too far toward Corporatocracy.
No benefit to the citizens beyond a few dozen jobs.
No benefit to the citizens beyond a few dozen jobs.
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/24/26 at 8:05 am to Jdiggy
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70% of Louisiana’s electrical capacity currently supplies industrial customers. All that has done was give us some of the lowest utility rates in the country. Why do yall think data centers change anything?
Normally the negotiation of electrical rates for industrial customers occurs out in the open. This is necessary because the utility’s return on capital is guaranteed. If they don’t earn that return on the industrial tariff or on the individual PPA’s, then the remainder of the rate-paying public have to make up the difference.
So under normal circumstances, all of the various special interest groups (including consumer advocacy groups who argue on behalf of residential customers) get to go in front of the PUC and argue for why the industrial rates should be higher. This is true for the baseline industrial tariff as well as normal PPA’s, which should be public record and still have to ultimately be approved by the PUC.
The issue with data centers is that they negotiate their PPA’s under NDA. Everyone involved (including Entergy and the PUC members who have to approve it) is under NDA. The details of the contract are kept hidden from the public. So despite the fact that the consumer is on the hook for any costs that don’t get fully covered by the special contract, nobody on the consumer’s side can scrutinize the rates.
That’s the difference with data centers. And it seems pretty obvious that the contracts are favorable to the tech companies; if they weren’t, there would be no reason to hide them under NDA. It shouldn’t be legal for a regulated utility to enter into secret contracts.
There’s also something inherently slimy about selling out the general public for AI. Regardless of whether you believe AI will actually take a ton of jobs away, the tech companies believe it. Why should consumers subsidize data centers to run AI models, when the tech companies building the data centers say we’ll need UBI because of the economic impact of those same AI models?
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