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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:47 am to
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:47 am to
I've just got back to my hotel from Omaha beach. Pictures do not do it justice. I don't know how anyone got off that beach
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:57 am to
I'm not sure who downvotes this, but hey... to all five of you fricks.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72846 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:10 am to
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Those conditions existed in the Pacific. Where a Higgins boat would get caught on the reefs the LVT could just keep on going.

LVT's = great for the Marines island hopping through the Pacific
Higgins boat = great for the beaches of Normandy


Exactly.

Which I don't want to cut the Higgins Boat short either. It did a damn good job on many occasions in the Pacific as well.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:10 am to
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I've just got back to my hotel from Omaha beach. Pictures do not do it justice. I don't know how anyone got off that beach

I would like to go but I'm not sure I really want to imagine it from a soldier's position.

My father was fortunate in that he was in the Anzio landing.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72846 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:13 am to
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I would like to go but I'm not sure I really want to imagine it from a soldier's position.


Your post reminded me of an old Normandy story of sorts. I'm about 100% positive this story is pure fiction, still, it's awesomely funny.....

quote:

Harvey, an elderly American absentmindedly arrived at French immigration at Charles de Gaulle airport, Paris and fumbled for his passport.

'You have been to France before Monsieur?' the official asked in an aggressive tone.

Harvey, smiled and admitted that he had been to France before.

'In that case you should know enough to have your passport ready for inspection,' barked the bad-tempered officer.

Harvey gently informed the man that the last time he came to France he did not have to show his passport or any other documents.

'Pas possible, old man. You Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in 'la belle France.'

Harvey gave the Frenchman a long hard look. 'I assure you, young man, that when I came ashore on Omaha Beach in Normandy on D-Day

in 1944, there was no damned Frenchman on the beach asking for passports.



Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:14 am to
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I'm not sure who downvotes this,


I was hoping those were mistakes, but every post on the first page has a down vote. Some douche must have down voted the whole thread
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20668 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:16 am to
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I'm not sure who downvotes this, but hey... to all five of you fricks.


I'm always amazed at how many haters of the military exists, especially a subject such as this. I've only learned in the past couple of years just how many ignorant, unfixably stupid assholes there is in this nation.

Oh well, Gump said it, "stupid is as stupid does."

ETA: I regret I can only upvote your post once.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 11:19 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104722 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:59 am to
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My father was fortunate in that he was in the Anzio landing.


Anzio was pretty bad itself. The landing was virtually unopposed, but the US commander didn't take advantage of the element of surprise and allowed the Germans to reinforce their positions. The Americans were trapped on the beachhead for four months before they finally broke out.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:14 pm to
Were you on the Ranger?

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40148 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:19 pm to
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I've just got back to my hotel from Omaha beach.


I'd LOVE to do this one day.
eta: go to Normandy that is ...
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Europe was child's play compared to the South Pacific.


I don't want to get into a whole argument and I am certainly not negating the intensities in the South Pacific, but

quote:

The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter.


Think about that for a minute.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72846 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 12:57 pm to
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I don't want to get into a whole argument and I am certainly not negating the intensities in the South Pacific, but


That's the difference between the ETO & PTO in WWII. In the PTO battles tended to be sharp, but short. In the ETO, battles tended to be longer and more akin to a steady meat grinder. Look at these figures for divisional casualties....

Casualties by Division ETO & MED (All Army)
1. 25,977 3rd Infantry Div
2. 23,277 9th Infantry
3. 22,660 4th Infantry Div
4. 20,993 45th Infantry Div
5. 20,659 1st Infantry Div
6. 20,620 29th Infantry Div
7. 19,466 36th Infantry Div
8. 19,200 90th Infantry Div
9. 18,446 30th Infantry Div
10. 17,087 80th Infantry Div


Now compare that to Army & Marine Divisions in the Pacific...

1. 19,284 1st Marine Div
2. 17,722 4th Marine Div
3. 11,482 2nd Marine Div
4. 9,212 7th Infantry Div (Army)
5. 8,812 96th Infantry Div (Army)
6. 8,676 3rd Marine Div
7. 8,563 5th Marine Div
8. 8,226 6th Marine Div
9. 7,461 77th Infantry Div (Army)
10. 7,268 32nd Infantry Div (Army)

LINK

LINK

Everyone knows the exploits of the famous 1st Marine Division in WWII in the Pacific. How they fought in campaigns such as Guadalcanal, Peleiu, and Okinawa. Meanwhile, how many people have ever heard of the glories of the 90th Infantry Division which suffered an almost identical casualty rate as the 1st Marines?
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28081 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:00 pm to
I think Saving Private Ryan did a great job of what I could see it being like on Omaha Beach. Of course tv and actually being there are worlds apart. Those guys were brave for sure.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:01 pm to
I've heard that Saving Private Ryan was only missing the smell of the battlefield
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:24 pm to
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I think Saving Private Ryan did a great job of what I could see it being like on Omaha Beach. Of course tv and actually being there are worlds apart. Those guys were brave for sure.


I saw an interview with Steven Spielberg after he made Saving Private Ryan. He said before he shot it, he was talking to his dad. He said "I think I'm going to shoot it in black and white like Shindler's List." His dad asked him why and he said because the newsreels he saw as a kid on the war were all in black and white. His dad said, "I was there fighting in World War II. Believe me...it was in color!"

He did a helluva job trying to capture the story.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Konkey Dong
Member since Aug 2013
2363 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:43 pm to
What would be great, is if Chicken could make it to where we could see who downvoted just this one time

Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Couldn't imagine what these guys were thinking at that exact moment.



I would be thinking "do not die"
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88265 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:01 pm to
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What would be great, is if Chicken could make it to where we could see who downvoted just this one time


I think it's safe to say that the men who stormed those beaches 72 years ago today accomplished something greater in one day than any of these downvoting cocksuckers will ever accomplish in their entire miserable existences.

They have to live with that. That's likely why the downvotes.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91671 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:03 pm to
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I don't know how anyone got off that beach

the Nazi guns melted, and it's hard to win when you're outnumbered.
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