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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:57 am to ell_13
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:57 am to ell_13
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How many laws did Alton break before he was shot? 1) Illegal distribution of Copyright Material 2) Brandishing a weapon 3) Resisting Arrest 4) Concealing a firearm without a permit 5) Possessing an illegal firearm as a felon If he had not broken any one of those laws, would he still be alive?
You can't seriously be suggesting that he deserved to die because he ripped off Universal Studios or Columbia Records.
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:58 am to Boagni Swamp
The first video starts with the two taser shots. I think we can assume there were words prior to that. We at least hear one officer tell him to get on the ground before the taser was fired.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:59 am to ell_13
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1) Illegal distribution of Copyright Material
I would have been dead a thousand times over back when I used Napster.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:00 am to Boagni Swamp
quote:Where did I say he deserved to die because of any one of those? Why do you take it there? Look at what I said. I'm only suggesting that if he doesn't break 1 of those 5 laws, he might still be alive. That he wasn't totally innocent in the escalation at the very least.
You can't seriously be suggesting that he deserved to die
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:01 am to Dizz
Me too. 
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:03 am to ell_13
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I think we can assume there were words prior to that.
Why would we assume anything? I'm not going to assume anything either way.
So, if we are being honest, you kinda just made that up to support your position. That is pretty dangerous territory here.
Here is the real answer for me. People will follow the comfortable narrative. For most people like me, that narrative is that cops are good, and that people who get shot by cops must have been really bad. But for a lot of people, the narrative is that cops are abusive, and that they will harass, beat or shoot you.
How you look at this situation depends on which narrative fits your experience. People on this board are going to outrageous lengths at times to exonerate the police. People in other forums are going to outrageous lengths at times to condemn them. Each is driven by the narrative that each has chosen.
So how bout we all just put the narratives aside and look at this calmly, based on actual evidence?
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:03 am to Split2874
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What I found interesting is BR had a peaceful protest. Everybody was ready for it a riot, the news people were all in place to record it and it did not happen.
Yep I thought for sure I'd wake up to footage of that store burning down and people running out with 40 oz. and Black & Milds
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:03 am to Boagni Swamp
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Ok. That is news to me. Link? Where are you getting that? I haven't seen that video.
You haven't seen the video at all and are trying to make an argument on this?
The only thing we don't know is what is actually said during the beginning conversation, as that has not been released yet.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:03 am to The Dog Next Door
What time does the riots start in Denham?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:04 am to ell_13
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That he wasn't totally innocent in the escalation at the very least.
Here we agree.
That does not answer the ultimate question: Was the officer right in shooting him?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:06 am to Boagni Swamp
quote:You don't think something was said before the taser went off? Some assumptions are common sense. It doesn't support anything one way or another. I only said words were exchanged. Hell, I even said it's in the damn video, so it isn't even an assumption really. It happened. So... sorry you wasted your time on that post...
Why would we assume anything? I'm not going to assume anything either way.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:06 am to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
You haven't seen the video at all and are trying to make an argument on this?
I've seen all the videos that are public, and I have not seen one that shows what you are saying.
And that was kind of a cheap shot and a distortion. So let me put it to you bluntly: Do you have actual evidence that they approached him less than aggressively? I'm not talking about your assumptions. I am talking about what you know. And don't put words in my mouth.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:07 am to Boagni Swamp
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This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:07 am to Boagni Swamp
quote:
You can't seriously be suggesting that he deserved to die because he ripped off Universal Studios or Columbia Records.
People really need to stop with the "did he deserve to die" bullshite. It's a weak dicked cop out for when they don't have a real explanation for why a person acted the way that they did. Most people who are killed likely didn't "deserve" it. However, many times their own actions led to the outcome when they are dealing with law enforcement, just like in this case.
So, did he deserve to die? No. Did his actions ultimately lead to his death? Yes.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to Boagni Swamp
quote:All comes down to if it can be proven that he wasn't reaching for a gun in his pocket. He was still fighting on the ground even with two guys on top of him. If one of the officers think he went for a gun and it can't be proven otherwise, there won't even be charges.
Was the officer right in shooting him?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to ell_13
quote:
You don't think something was said before the taser went off? Some assumptions are common sense.
In my experience, everybody thinks their own common sense is shared, even if it isn't. You didn't waste my time. Just don't make assumptions if you are really looking for the truth.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to ell_13
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You don't think something was said before the taser went off? Some assumptions are common sense. It doesn't support anything one way or another. I only said words were exchanged. Hell, I even said it's in the damn video, so it isn't even an assumption really. It happened. So... sorry you wasted your time on that post...
Yea, I mean, beyond the report of what happened, it is a pretty safe assumption to make that the Police said something. I mean when have police ever not said anything? You ever have a cop come up to you and just shoot you with a tazer and not say a word to you? He's just being obtuse.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to shel311
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, you didn't see a clear scuffle between him and the cop
No. But I was watching the video on my phone so maybe I missed something.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:08 am to Boagni Swamp
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I'd like to do an experiment on people who think this. I'm being serious. I'd like to have two cops approach groups of random demographics aggressively and see how they really respond. My guess is that most people across the board would not "comply" if set upon by police officers. Fight or flight would kick in, and you would do one or the other.
Here is the flaw in that--it would be unlikely that police would aggressively approach people for no reason. However, they are likely to be aggressive when dealing with a person with a violent and substantial criminal past who is very likely armed.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:09 am to ell_13
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All comes down to if it can be proven that he wasn't reaching for a gun in his pocket. He was still fighting on the ground even with two guys on top of him. If one of the officers think he went for a gun and it can't be proven otherwise, there won't even be charges.
Practically speaking this is probably right. Let me ask this again: Do we KNOW that he had a gun? I'm not judging anybody. I just want to know what has been credibly verified.
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