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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:51 am to Hickok
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:51 am to Hickok
Upon the evidence that we have at the present, my conclusion is that these were three stupid people. When you put three stupid people together, with guns, bad things happen. If any one of them might have been more intelligent, then this situation probably would have been averted.
My conclusion could easily change with video footage prior to the tackle, and/or new evidence.
My conclusion could easily change with video footage prior to the tackle, and/or new evidence.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:54 am to shel311
quote:
Are there 2 guys in red shirts selling CDs waving a gun?
Idk, Can you prove this or what? Read my previous posts and see where I'm coming from with this..I was just stating to the fact that the cops didn't have their guns drawn to begin with because they were unsure of the suspect of the original call. When the store owner stated that sterling wasn't the one causing trouble I assumed there was more than one person there with a gun. Was sterling wrong yes, did he deserve what he got yes.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:55 am to munchman
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But the last I heard was that resisting arrest, fighting with the police, A convicted felon caring and unlawful weapon , are all crimes.
You can add agg assault for threatening the complainant with a firearm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:58 am to Hickok
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Can you prove this or what?
Seriously? Can we prove this? You prove to me that there were two guys in red shirts selling CD's and brandishing a weapon.
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I was just stating to the fact that the cops didn't have their guns drawn to begin with because they were unsure of the suspect of the original call.
Not true at all. They knew the description and he fit said description. Thus they attempted to speak with him.
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When the store owner stated that sterling wasn't the one causing trouble I assumed there was more than one person there with a gun.
Again, not what the store owner said. He said he didnt know the call was made on sterling and he wasnt causing any trouble that he was aware of. Sterling was selling CD's outside the store, not inside.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:59 am to burgeman
In other news, an acquaintance of mine got shot in the back after being mugged while him and his girlfriend were walking to his car from a music venue in the Avondale neighborhood of Birmingham last night or the night before.
Tried to find a news article on it, and found nothing. Imagine that.
Tried to find a news article on it, and found nothing. Imagine that.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 10:59 am to idlewatcher
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I think it's become trendy to resist arrest.
This. It is now a fad. The terrible police always after yo arse. No, frick that. Act like a civilized fricking human being and you'll be fine. And here's a thought, when confronted by police, maybe...comply? fricking ridiculous man. This shite has gone full retard.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:02 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:Oh, so you're only friends with white people.
In other news, an acquaintance of mine got shot in the back after being mugged while him and his girlfriend were walking to his car from a music venue in the Avondale neighborhood of Birmingham last night or the night before. Tried to find a news article on it, and found nothing. Imagine that.
Racist!!!
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:03 am to Boagni Swamp
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So how bout we all just put the narratives aside and look at this calmly, based on actual evidence?
Get the frick out of here with that shite.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:07 am to More beer please
Who can prove this? Idk then don't state it.. You need another beer.. Please
My comment was towards "why didn't the cops have the guns drawn when the saw him instead of tackling him" and it's because they were unsure of who had a gun. Quit being a frickboy and stop stating facts that aren't proven..
My comment was towards "why didn't the cops have the guns drawn when the saw him instead of tackling him" and it's because they were unsure of who had a gun. Quit being a frickboy and stop stating facts that aren't proven..
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:07 am to Hickok
quote:
Are there 2 guys in red shirts selling CDs waving a gun?
Idk, Can you prove this or what?
You cannot be serious with this shite
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:14 am to Hickok
Not only did you come back after saying you were leaving... You come back with this crap 
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:15 am to Hickok
quote:They didn't know the guy selling CDs was the guy dispatch described as selling CDs?
it's because they were unsure of who had a gun.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:17 am to Brageous
quote:I can't prove that a flying spaghetti monster, in fact, did NOT have anything to do with Sterling's death.
You cannot be serious with this shite
So, at this point I can't rule it out.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:18 am to Hickok
quote:
Quit being a frickboy
A "frickboy"? GTFO of here with that dumb shite.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:26 am to Broken Ear Glen
That new video is pretty disturbing.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:28 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Did just the Bald Cop do the shooting? The guy on top is salmoni with hair, did he ever fire his gun? I would think only 1 cop on the side did the shooting..
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:29 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:28 am to StrongBackWeakMind
WBRZ
New report on the officers. Not much to see.
ETA: To save people the click see below.
BATON ROUGE - Following a public records request filed by the WBRZ Investigative Unit early after the officer-involved shooting death of Alton Sterling, the City of Baton Rouge made internal affairs records of the two officers involved available for review.
Chief Investigator Chris Nakamoto got the first look at the records Thursday morning. Preliminary records research shows both officers, Howie Lake and Blane Salamoni, have been investigated for use of force - meaning anything from a physical encounter to firing officer-issued duty weapons.
In 2012, Salamoni was cautioned for damaging department equipment in an incident unrelated to use of force. The caution was part of Salamoni's disciplinary history, which is public record since he is a police officer for city government. In August 2015, Salamoni was involved in a "physical altercation" while trying to arrest a person. Salamoni reported the person he was trying to apprehend tried to take his taser. That person then needed stitches to close a head injury. In that situation, Police Chief Carl Dabadie decided the complaint was not sustained, so there was no disciplinary action.
Lake has two use of force incidents - including the December 2014 shooting of Kevin Knight. Knight survived the shooting and was arrested. Lake was cleared of any wrongdoing in both.
New report on the officers. Not much to see.
ETA: To save people the click see below.
BATON ROUGE - Following a public records request filed by the WBRZ Investigative Unit early after the officer-involved shooting death of Alton Sterling, the City of Baton Rouge made internal affairs records of the two officers involved available for review.
Chief Investigator Chris Nakamoto got the first look at the records Thursday morning. Preliminary records research shows both officers, Howie Lake and Blane Salamoni, have been investigated for use of force - meaning anything from a physical encounter to firing officer-issued duty weapons.
In 2012, Salamoni was cautioned for damaging department equipment in an incident unrelated to use of force. The caution was part of Salamoni's disciplinary history, which is public record since he is a police officer for city government. In August 2015, Salamoni was involved in a "physical altercation" while trying to arrest a person. Salamoni reported the person he was trying to apprehend tried to take his taser. That person then needed stitches to close a head injury. In that situation, Police Chief Carl Dabadie decided the complaint was not sustained, so there was no disciplinary action.
Lake has two use of force incidents - including the December 2014 shooting of Kevin Knight. Knight survived the shooting and was arrested. Lake was cleared of any wrongdoing in both.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:32 am to PapaPogey
Is it known if both officers fired their weapons into sterling or was it just one?
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