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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:44 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:44 am to
There are differences between the Amstaff and put bull. An Amstaff isn't more than 80% white, their nose can't be red "must be colored", they are heavier with thicker bones, they have a larger head, shorter muzzle, etc.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:44 am to
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However the Pitt in this story was chilling in a cage, was not provoked, saw a kid he has probably seen many times and maybe even played with, and decided to break down the gate holding him and kill the kid.
Do we know that for sure? Or is that just more of the BS these people are feeding us? Just like "Oh he was a good dog","never bit", Was the sweetest thing".
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:44 am to
Just attacks or bites. I am sure most were superficial wounds. I would think most would be nips. Also my point is you rarely hear of a lab killing a child/person. I think it does occasionally happen but not with the regularity of pit bulls.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:47 am to
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As a owner of a lab for most of my life I gotta call some bs on this. It takes a whole lot more for a lab to first attack and then for a lab to kill then it takes a Pitt. A lab would attack if provoked and was scared. It would kill if really scared.

However the Pitt in this story was chilling in a cage, was not provoked, saw a kid he has probably seen many times and maybe even played with, and decided to break down the gate holding him and kill the kid. I've never heard of a lab of any type doing that.



See where you're going wrong here is you're using logic. Take that logic and sit it aside and instead focus on the emotion of how these are just sweet innocent dogs and it's only due to the fact their owners are white or ghetto trash that makes them go apeshit and kill children.

You see, apparently the Pit is very socially self conscious breed of dog. If it sees it's owned by a poor person this enrages the pit and turns it into a murderous beast. But if the Pit see's it's owner is at least upper middle class, it's as gentile as a newborn bunny.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:47 am to
Some people show their true colors in these threads.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:49 am to
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I'll buy into your logic just as soon as a gun grabs a child, drags it into it's case, and kills the child.

Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:49 am to
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You see, apparently the Pit is very socially self conscious breed of dog. If it sees it's owned by a poor person this enrages the pit and turns it into a murderous beast. But if the Pit see's it's owner is at least upper middle class, it's as gentile as a newborn bunny.


Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:54 am to
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Also my point is you rarely hear of a lab killing a child/person. I think it does occasionally happen but not with the regularity of pit bulls.


Fatal dog attacks by year....

2013


2012


2011


2010


2009


2008


2007


2006


2005




LINK
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:54 am to
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I just wish retarded people didn't love pitts so much. They end up giving us normal pitt owners a bad name.


Said every Pitt owner ever
Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:54 am to
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Do we know that for sure? Or is that just more of the BS these people are feeding us? Just like "Oh he was a good dog","never bit", Was the sweetest thing".


Yeah I've already said I may be wrong but that's the way the owners are describing it. Maybe trying to save there arse. They said boy was outside playing, Pitt was in a cage locked up but got out and killed the kid. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:58 am to
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Fatal dog attacks by year....


Yes I have seen that. Was going to post a link to dog bites.com that showed every victim in 2013 and the breed responsible.

I think anyone that owns a pit with an infant or little kid is taking a risk...one that I wouldn't take.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:59 am to
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A strange phenomenon is when a hot girl in her 20s gets a pitbull because they are "misunderstood." I have seen this scenario end tragically more than once.


Really? Out of the dozen pit bull deaths, and a few hundred serious injuries a year, you've experienced pit bull tragedies on multiple occasions?

It's a weird day when I defend pit bulls, as I generally don't want much to do with them. But this argument is made stupid by absolutists on both sides.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:00 am to
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I think anyone that owns a pit with an infant or little kid is taking a risk...one that I wouldn't take.


I've had kids pull at my dog's ears, mouth, using her like a jungle gym and I've never had a problem.

Yes I know, just wait until my sweet pit viciously attacks and rips the throat out of some kid.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:01 am to
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You see, apparently the Pit is very socially self conscious breed of dog. If it sees it's owned by a poor person this enrages the pit and turns it into a murderous beast. But if the Pit see's it's owner is at least upper middle class, it's as gentile as a newborn bunny.


I want you to apply this same logic to a black male.
statistically they have over a 70% chance of committing a crime or going to prison.

Now guess what...if they are raised by ghetto trash, this number goes way up. If they are raised by upper middle class parents...


Do you see where this logic is going?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:02 am to
Yeah, my son pulls on him, steps on him, uses him as his personal playground, you name it. My dog just takes it. He doesn't even wince.

ETA: I'm still not naive, though. I still worry.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:07 am to
Well you learn something every day. Since dogs stay getting opening doors all the time, I now don't feel as bad. My lab knows how to get out of her pen, and she usually does within 2 minutes.

Seeing that in MawMaw's case, the dogs opened the door and in this one, they opened the kennel door, it must be pretty common nowadays.

I strap my dog's pen with 4 different items. The lock it came with, 2 bungee like chords and some rope. You know how she gets out? fricker sticks her head under the gate. I can't lock her up and come back 2 mins later to see her right at the door. It's alright though, have the yard fenced in. She can't get out of that, or just shows interest to, never seen her try.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:08 am to
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I've had kids pull at my dog's ears, mouth, using her like a jungle gym and I've never had a problem


This is the main reason why I wouldn't take the risk. Kids don't know how to treat dogs b/c they don't understand when the dog is getting agitated. In the presence of supervision dogs tend to put up with the abuse by kids...its when there aren't adults around that the dogs seem to turn on the kids.
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:10 am to
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I've had kids pull at my dog's ears, mouth, using her like a jungle gym and I've never had a problem.

Yes I know, just wait until my sweet pit viciously attacks and rips the throat out of some kid.
Every person isn't the same. Same with dogs


My lab is pretty much a playground too. She loves to play ball and play with the neighborhood kids sometimes too. She hasn't snapped, but my other dogs would.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:10 am to
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Fatal dog attacks by year.
what's the demographic of the people who owned those killer pit bulls?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:11 am to
Actually, these terriers were once preferred for children because of their high pain tolerances. If a child were to do the same to a spaniel, the spaniel very well may bite.
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