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re: Baton Rouge and New Orleans are significantly more dangerous than Chicago

Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:00 pm to
Chicago is a lot wealthier per capita than most areas in the South. Chicago has three or four really bad neighborhoods, the rest of the city is either middle income or upper class. A lot of you guys need to get out more or do your own research.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5511 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:02 pm to
All of the BR killings happen in a handful of neighborhoods, where I wouldn't be caught dead (no pun intended). Hoodrats gotta hoodrat.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6394 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:04 pm to
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Google it. Those are the stats from 2019.
Your stats are wrong. A google search shows New Orleans murder rate last year was ~ 30 murder/100k, not the 39.5 you posted. Birmingham, Jackson and Kansas City had a higher rate so Nola was 7th. It's still pathetic that a top 10 murder rate was cause for celebration but get your facts straight before you shite on my shithole.

LINK
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8611 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Chicago has three or four really bad neighborhoods, the rest of the city is either middle income or upper class.


I wouldn't go that far, but much of the city is fine.

Fairly large swaths of the Southside and Westside are dangerous as hell, but they've been somewhat emptied out over the last thirty years as people with the means to do so have left. The neighborhoods left have continued in the cycle of poverty and violence. It has helped that much of what used to be an absolute hellhole has gentrified pretty significantly in the last twenty years - South Loop and parts of Bronzeville, much of the near Westside, Old Town (where Cabrini used to be), Uptown/Edgewater/Rogers Park, Andersonville...

The city is not on a good trajectory right now, though, especially the areas near Northside close to downtown.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69734 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:35 pm to
how many of those are white people?
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:42 pm to
Because statistically speaking, that’s damn near all black on black murder. Since I’m white, my chances of getting shot in either of those cities on your list are about the same as me being shot in fricking Mayberry.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5861 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:48 pm to
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A google search shows New Orleans murder rate last year was ~ 30 murder/100k, not the 39.5 you posted.
Unfortunately, NOLA is working hard on its numbers for 2020.

WGNO: Murders up 47.6%
quote:

According to New Orleans City Council’s crime dashboard, non-fatal shootings are up 41.6% since 2019. Murders are up 47.6%. There’s been 39 more deaths as compared to this time last year.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:50 pm to
Want to hear a crazy stat?

Latin America has 8% of the people in the world. They commit 38% of all the murders. In Latin America 80% of the murders occur on 2% of the streets.

Environment matters.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 1:51 pm to
No shite
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2380 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:01 pm to
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This is why I moved to Ferriday


When you say Ferriday do you mean Blue Light Alley or Lake Concordia?
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:04 pm to
No wonder why I feel comfortable in Detroit. Same as Baton Rouge...
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60009 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:06 pm to
Didn’t say it was moving the stat - I just said sweep the ghetto killings under the rug with the serial killers and don’t mention it - that’s what BR does
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60009 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:09 pm to
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All of the BR killings happen in a handful of neighborhoods


Except for the old woman killed in her carport - but that might be technically St George
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26581 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Didn’t say it was moving the stat - I just said sweep the ghetto killings under the rug with the serial killers and don’t mention it - that’s what BR does


This doesn’t make any sense.

There’s a billboard with the murder count on I-12. Is that “sweeping it under the rug”?

What is Broome doing that’s different from Destroya? They are both shitty mayors that are ignoring the issue from what I can see.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60009 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 2:30 pm to
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There’s a billboard with the murder count on I-12. Is that “sweeping it under the rug”?


Pretty much - shouldn’t it be on the I-110?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Just putting this out there, since so many OT'rs think Chicago is a shite hole.



New Orleans Population = 390,000
Baton Rouge Population = 270,000
Chicago Population = 2,670,000

Chicago is 4 times as large, population wise. So while i agree that NO and BR are having a "thuggin it and loving it" problem, for Chicago to have such a high rate with nearly 3 million people residing in it, is pretty staggering.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20798 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:12 pm to
We coming .......
Posted by K E V 8 4
Member since Jul 2010
624 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Wish we could figure out the common denominator
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A long tradition of Democrat leadership with a justice system that is very weak on crime.
That's not the main problem. Look at San Francisco and Portland. Think demographics.


I have made a first pass at simple linear regression using the 45 cities with the highest murder rates (dependent variable or "Y" axis) and percentage AA population (independent variable or "X" axis).

Anyone one to guess the correlation (R Squared)?

A similar analysis using income levels as the independent variable might show a similar result, but I haven't done that yet.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:07 pm to
Wrong

LINK

New Orleans #4 (40 year historic low)
BTR #5
Shreveport #8
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176513 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:28 pm to
Chicago is 32% black while Baton Rouge is 55% black and New Orleans is 60% black.
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