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re: Being fat is choosing to live in sin
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:22 pm to RohanGonzales
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:22 pm to RohanGonzales
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and then tosses them to Hell if they frick up bad enough
That's the problem with your understanding. Sinning "bad enough" is not what separates you from God. Christianity is not a works-based salvation where you go to Heaven if you are " a good person" and go to Hell if you're not.
Everyone is guilty of more than enough sin to separate them from God forever. Some people will accept their guilt, repent, and trust God's grace for salvation and others will not.
And just because God knows what people will choose does not in the least make Him responsible for their choices. Everyone makes the choice above on their own.
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Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:30 pm to Ricardo
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Food industry switched to hyper palatable foods that are laden with corn syrup and salt.
This is what I'm talking about. There have been entire books written about Big Food. They literally started using MRI machines to track activity in the brain when certain combinations of food additives/ingredients were used (and MRI machines became widely available in—what do you know? The early 80s) to find "the bliss point," which is a real industry term.
In other words, they tracked the brain so as to engineer processed food that was as addictive as they could make it.
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Yeah, it's a real mystery why people are fat.
There's more to it than you think. For example...
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A study published recently in the journal Obesity Research & Clinical Practice found that it’s harder for adults today to maintain the same weight as those 20 to 30 years ago did, even at the same levels of food intake and exercise.
The authors examined the dietary data of 36,400 Americans from 1971 to 2008 and the physical-activity data of 14,419 people from 1988 to 2006. They grouped the data sets together by the amount of food and activity, age, and BMI.
They found a very surprising correlation: A given person, in 2006, eating the same amount of calories, taking in the same quantities of macronutrients like protein and fat, and exercising the same amount as a person of the same age did in 1988 would have a BMI that was about 2.3 points higher. In other words, people today are about 10 percent heavier than people were in the 1980s, even if they follow the exact same diet and exercise plans.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:05 am to bbvdd
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““Do not judge, so that you won’t be judged. For you will be judged by the same standard with which you judge others, and you will be measured by the same measure you use. Why do you look at the splinter in your brother’s eye but don’t notice the beam of wood in your own eye?” ??Matthew? ?7?:?1?-?3? ?CSB??
Keep reading…you are still supposed to get it out of your brother’s eye.
Galatians 6:1
“Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.”
2 Thessalonians 3:14–15
“If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.”
1 Corinthians 5:12–13
“For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. ‘Purge the evil person from among you.’”
Ephesians 5:11
“Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.”
The Bible does not forbid judgment; it forbids judgment that is hypocritical or harsh. Instead, it calls believers to exercise righteous judgment, motivated by love and aimed at correction and restoration. That means we don’t condemn or ‘stone’ someone for being obese, especially when we all wrestle with sin ourselves. But the church has a responsibility to lovingly call out and correct the sin of gluttony, just as with any other sin. True love does not stay silent while a brother or sister in Christ suffers under preventable harm. Encouraging repentance and healthier stewardship of the body is not cruelty, but genuine care for both their spiritual walk and physical well-being.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:45 am to Clark14
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try to be a better person who doesn’t think they are better than others.
You can judge other people without thinking you're better than them.
Should you jump to conclusions? Not always, but most of the time? Hmmm... Maybe.
Most people fall into patterns of behavior. Letting things slide or taking the easy way out is all too common. It's the reason for a lot of problems in the world. Most issues are not malicious or even intentional. They're simply the result of not paying attention.
A person doesn't just wake up one day an obese pig. They ignored the warning signs or made excuses for them. Neglect is a choice as much as care is.
Never underestimate how lazy the average person is.
It's not that being obese is a sin, as much as the mindset that accompanies being fat. Never make excuses for what one knows is bad. It becomes who you are.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 5:02 pm to yakster
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Imagine calling yourself a Christian and getting on a social media board and condemning overweight people.
I would never call myself a christian.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 5:06 pm to Florida_Man1981
What will you call yourself next after you get banned
Posted on 8/31/25 at 5:06 pm to Tangineck
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I don't worry about my children becoming fat
I hope you don’t have daughters
If so she’s gonna have to marry a Mexican… or worse
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:51 pm to Florida_Man1981
Yeah but it’s almost fat season. I’m 6’ walking around 180 but highs in the 70’s here next week with lows in the 50’s. That’s gumbo/hot toddy weather. I’ll get up to 195 by Christmas and after New Year dial it back to 180 by spring.
If this makes me a sinner then that sin needs to get in line behind the other sins.
If this makes me a sinner then that sin needs to get in line behind the other sins.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:12 pm to SallysHuman
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Sin-o-meter
Amazon has them for $69.99.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:37 pm to wackatimesthree
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And just because God knows what people will choose does not in the least make Him responsible for their choices. Everyone makes the choice above on their own.
This is a logical fallacy that more Christians need to acknowledge. You can not believe that a sovereign God created the world, knowing exactly how it would turn out and every choice/decision each individual would make, and then hold that person responsible for their choice. They absolutely do not have free will in that scenario.
The first part of your post though is spot on.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:24 pm to RandySavage
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They absolutely do not have free will in that scenario.
Of course they absolutely do.
There is nothing about knowing what someone will choose that means that the person really doesn't choose it.
From Reasonable Faith (pay special attention to the underlined sentences below):
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...the famous question of divine foreknowledge and human freedom. The objection arises here that if God knows in advance everything that happens, every choice that you will ever make, then isn’t everything fated to occur? For example, if God knows in advance and predicts that Peter will deny Christ three times then when the time arrives isn’t Peter fated to deny Christ three times? Isn’t it necessary that Peter deny Christ three times? How could he do anything else since God knows and has predicted that he would do so and God cannot err. It would seem that if Peter could do anything else then God could be mistaken which is impossible. Doesn’t it follow from God’s complete foreknowledge of the future that fatalism is true? That everything that happens happens necessarily?
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How then could we defend the compatibility of divine foreknowledge and human freedom? I think in the first place we want to break that equation between foreknowing something and foreordaining something. Those are not the same things. God knows in advance all of the choices that people will freely make, but that doesn’t mean that he determines those choices. In fact, quite the opposite. If we want to speak of determination, it is the choices that determine what God foreknows, not vice versa. It is not that because God foreknows you will do something that you do it, it is because you will do it that God foreknows it. If there is any determination going on here it is the event that determines what God foreknows, not that what God foreknows determines the event.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:03 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Amazon has them for $69.99.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:51 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Pride, gluttony, all the deadly sins are fine now
Amazing assumptions. I was thin and fit all my life until my 50s. My weight gain in my 50s was a combination of hip surgery, three knee surgeries in an 18 month period, and menopause… and fat is a bear to get off.
So get outta here with your jackassery assumptions.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:54 am to Florida_Man1981
Fat people suck. Period
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:02 am to Bama and Beer
He writes as he gleefully chews the huge bite of sausage and egg biscuit smothered in syrup.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:39 am to Florida_Man1981
IMHO, I try to plant seeds......that is our purpose as a Christian. I'm not here to convict or convince or debate, just to plant seeds. I have too many logs in my own eye to point out your sticks.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:46 am to Florida_Man1981
Judging people is also a sin
You will burn in hell unless you repent
You will burn in hell unless you repent
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:02 am to LSU4ever2002
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Judging people is also a sin
You will burn in hell unless you repent
So christians (even skinny ones) shouldn't judge people?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:15 am to Florida_Man1981
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Nobody is born fat they but go to...
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:26 am to wackatimesthree
Straw man argument, it is not that he simply knows it, it is that he created it and it can be no other possible way.
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