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Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:09 pm to
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Any burial grounds should be protected, that’s just common sense



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Why? They just remind us of how horrible that time period was.



So a slave's grave should be treated differently from a free person's grave?
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
5022 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:10 pm to
Reason 1001 of why Vikings funerals are the best
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:13 pm to
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So a slave's grave should be treated differently from a free person's grave?


There's nothing to prove those are slaves. It's just an assumption and that alone makes it an awful reminder. It's a bad time in our nation's history. Look at the damage done. Graves, memorials, statues, re-enactments, museums - it all needs to go.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23410 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:26 pm to
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There's nothing to prove those are slaves. It's just an assumption and that alone makes it an awful reminder. It's a bad time in our nation's history. Look at the damage done. Graves, memorials, statues, re-enactments, museums - it all needs to go.





Do you have the proof it’s not?? U SMART..
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:32 pm to
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Do you have the proof it’s not??


there is never a burden to prove the negative
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
61472 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:32 pm to
I actually thought that cemeteries were already protected as such...If not, then I can understand that there needs to be some kind of restriction against desecrating burial sites.

This also begs the question...why would special laws be passed to protect graves containing people of color, but not to protect the graves of others?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12576 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:32 pm to
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wasn’t even going to mention the statues given the myriad of problems this bill raises but, yeah, the hypocrisy is pretty fricking blatant.


The hypocrisy of looking at whether we should protect slave graves and take down monuments?

I mean... I guess you can rage out about that but... do you really want to?

As for the laws... almost no good way to handle it. Terrible things like slavery cause nasty ripple effects and those ripples become waves when you try to ignore them. Addressing something like this would be much easier decades ago. Now? Not sure you can do a ton
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1159 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:53 pm to
A nightmare for landowners. No way to really know what is there and a potential for a claim that makes the land completely worthless or at least greatly limits use. A truly terrible bill. What if your home is on top of a site claimed to possibly have a slave buried there?
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:03 pm to
Put the nightmare behind us. Leave no trace. Look forward.

Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1159 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:15 pm to
If there is a clearly marked burial site, slave or free,leave it undisturbed. But it sounds like this says a claim of a site can result in a taking from an innocent landowner. And if pictures of equipment are to suggest a coverup your prejudice is showing. This would mess up title stability regardless of who is the owner.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:29 pm to
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If there is a clearly marked burial site, slave or free,leave it undisturbed. But it sounds like this says a claim of a site can result in a taking from an innocent landowner. And if pictures of equipment are to suggest a coverup your prejudice is showing. This would mess up title stability regardless of who is the owner.


A coverup of what?

I'm just saying to remove everything that reminds us about the civil war.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
155813 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:30 pm to
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there is never a burden to prove the negative
prove there isn't
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:35 pm to
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there is never a burden to prove the negative
prove there isn't



This situation is not defined with finite and explicit parameters. Therefore proven.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:35 pm to
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“We bury our animals better than what we've done for these people,” local genealogist Debbie Martin said.


Well, it's nice to see that this legislation isn't being driven hyperbolic rhetoric or anything.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:36 pm to
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there is never a burden to prove the negative
prove there isn't
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:38 pm to
Why are you clapping? I just proved it.

Can we get on with eradicating these burial grounds?

Purge the Civil War
Every bit of it
It's too painful
We need to remove it all and pretend it doesn't exist

Move on
Move forward
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:43 pm to
I don't find any of this funny. This is a serious topic.

Plow up these burial sites. Plow them all up. They take up too much land.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138559 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:47 pm to
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I don't find any of this funny. This is a serious topic.

Yeah, we can see that.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:52 pm to
I kept it going for a little while.
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