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Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:53 am to tigerfoot
quote:Exactly. We needs help outchea.
They have us over a barrel dont they, if we dont eat em, we die. Govt should step in.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:01 am to kengel2
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Serious question, is irrigation not an option? Or does that make it to expensive?
Irrigate what? Obviously farmers had to pump record amounts of water and pay exorbitant energy and fuel bills just to flood up their ponds and have the chance of having a profitable season.
I assume you mean pump additional water into the ponds early to maintain moisture in the soil and as a result crawfish burrows? Many people did flush their ponds this fall after the LSU AgCenter put out a bulletin suggesting it. Also a lot of permanent ponds like mine plant rice as a forage crop in August and that requires pumping in water just to get the seed to germinate and root.
Another thing people don't understand is that pumping water in the extreme heat of summer to create a shallow flood causes the water to get very hot. In addition to the water temperature that crawfish cannot remain in, hot water is unable to carry much dissolved oxygen which crawfish need to survive in an aquatic environment.
I know some guys who pumped water in August and September in an attempt to flush ponds that saw their holdover crawfish that had emerged from their burrows coming out of the unbearably hot water and congregating on levees surrounding their ponds in temperatures exceeded 100 degrees. Not much chance for a crawfish or it's young broodstock to survive either staying in the scalding water or drying in the extreme heat.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:15 am to Classy Doge
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Classy Doge
Thanks, just keep seeing pictures of empty dried ponds and it looked weird and didnt make sense. I always thought they flooded them to grow rice like you so just letting them dry up didnt make much sense. Sure, pumping more water drives costs up, just wondered if it drove the costs up so much that some decide not to do it.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:18 am to Classy Doge
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How do those hold up flavor and texture wise? I eat flash frozen shrimp and those are fine
Some places call them pre season crawfish. I had some once and they were very mealy and not worth buying. Also all the tails for sale now are almost definitely last years crop that are frozen. They are not catching enough to start peeling yet. They are boiling what few they catch. And I don’t care for crawfish tails that have been in the freezer for months. Just not the same.
How do those hold up flavor and texture wise? I eat flash frozen shrimp and those are fine
Some places call them pre season crawfish. I had some once and they were very mealy and not worth buying. Also all the tails for sale now are almost definitely last years crop that are frozen. They are not catching enough to start peeling yet. They are boiling what few they catch. And I don’t care for crawfish tails that have been in the freezer for months. Just not the same.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:26 am to kengel2
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Sure, pumping more water drives costs up, just wondered if it drove the costs up so much that some decide not to do it.
Yes it's become very expensive to pump water due to inflated energy and fuel costs. But your average consumer doesn't understand that there can be some negative results from pumping water in extreme heat.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:34 am to kengel2
Exactly what classy doge said. We did irrigate we tried everything we could. The temperatures were just too much. The water got really nasty and lacked oxygen
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:37 am to kengel2
Some farms couldn’t irrigate at all. The water they rely on had saltwater intrusion. That’s probably the ponds you saw not irrigated at all
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:54 am to SWLA92
Capt John has live crawfish for $8.99/lb in Westwego
He just posted this a little while a go
He just posted this a little while a go
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:01 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:This is what I don't understand. How many people are you trying to feed? Let's say it's 8 and you had to spend $32 on tails. Is $4/person + whatever else you are serving really too tall of an order to serve guests a decent meal?
1 lb of Louisiana Peeled Crawfish Tails was $15.99
I didn’t buy any bc I already had some, but damn. 1 lb of crawfish tails can barely feed 4 people.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:27 am to labguy
quote:
Also all the tails for sale now are almost definitely last years crop that are frozen.
For sure. That or they were imported from China.
quote:
They are not catching enough to start peeling yet.
Hopefully there's enough of an increase in catch to drop prices where processors start to peel tailmeat. If the price remains elevated it may not be economically feasible for them to open up the peeling plants this year.
quote:
And I don’t care for crawfish tails that have been in the freezer for months. Just not the same.
There is no difference in crawfish tails that have been frozen for a week or a year. The key to getting frozen tailmeat to taste correctly is how they are thawed out. You must thaw them from a frozen state under refrigeration or else they will taste funny.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:33 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
This is what I don't understand. How many people are you trying to feed? Let's say it's 8 and you had to spend $32 on tails. Is $4/person + whatever else you are serving really too tall of an order to serve guests a decent meal?
The package on the back of 1lb of tails says it's a serving for 4.
I cooked a pot of etouffee yesterday and with 3lbs of tails....we ate 6-7 servings with plenty leftover for today and hopefully a Tupperware to fill and freeze
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:38 am to Big Scrub TX
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Is $4/person + whatever else you are serving really too tall of an order to serve guests a decent meal?
It's a little more than $4 a person after you factor in butter, veggies, flour, rice, broth and bread.
But I get what you're trying to say....I dont mind paying the price bc I can and I enjoy cooking and I will continue to do so......I'm not much of a "hit them in the wallet" kinda guy
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:40 am to tgrbaitn08
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It's a little more than $4 a person after you factor in butter, veggies, flour, rice, broth and bread.
You're supposed to fill them up with french bread, rice and potato salad baw.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:50 am to Classy Doge
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You're supposed to fill them up with french bread, rice
I used Texas Toast and def use dat rice
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:52 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:
Capt John has live crawfish for $8.99/lb in Westwego
35lb sack = $315.00 before tax. That's ~ $345.00. Add in your seasonings and sides and you're at $400.00 to boil.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:53 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:Sure - $6?
It's a little more than $4 a person after you factor in butter, veggies, flour, rice, broth and bread.
Same thing goes for steak. People bitch about Prime and/or Wagyu costing between $25 and $35 a pound. I personally think it's still a great deal. Let's say you paid $35/lb for filet - so, $100 for 3lb. You can have 6 guests eat half a pound each for $100! At any decent steakhouse, that's $250, minimum - and probably more like $400.
And there are plenty of prime/wagyu cuts available for a good bit less thean $35. I get my strip right now for like $28.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:57 am to The Torch
Stock up on frozen tails while you can at $10-$12 a package.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:58 am to GeauxTigers0107
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Add in your seasonings and sides and you're at $400.00 to boil.
Yep, and thats just for one sack.....who only boils one sack?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:59 am to The Torch
Damn. The folks who will pay these prices are looking at a $500 1-sack boil with the crawfish and all the other shite? Maybe my math is off, I'm no expert on crawfish prices and supply, but that is stupid.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 11:01 am
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