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re: Do you ever try and balance your deeds/ karma?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:58 pm to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:58 pm to Rickety Cricket
When is this convenience?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:59 pm to Napoleon
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Hmm, it was in the bible I read...
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:31 pm to The First Cut
thanks for totally derailing my thread by the way.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:49 pm to Napoleon
He makes a good point though. Never thought about it that way.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:01 pm to Napoleon
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I don't really believe in the divine aspects of Karmic retribution.
Yeah, it isn't supposed to be considered divine retribution-- this concept is perpetuated by Western sensibilities, particularly by those who want to pass judgment on others and see them punished.
Karma is more like the earthly weight of internal and external influences that shape life. It is formed by making choices in the face of daily external pressures. Selfish choices supposedly result in accruing karma and perpetuate further selfish behavior. Selfless/more noble choices supposedly free people from karma. Since something like 90% of our daily activity is based on habit, it isn't going too far out on a limb to suggest that our choices form trends that shape habit... for better and worse.
It could be argued (broadly) that selfless behaviors tend to be at least a little contrary to our base animal instincts-- either by making us choose to abstain from a behavior that our instincts usually compel us to do, or by making us place the welfare of others before our own. In this idea-- without getting too esoteric and arguing about what constitutes spiritual life-- we can see a practical dimension: Instincts are common to all conscious animals and serve to ensure the basic requirements of survival; arguably nobler behaviors tap into more evolved parts of our minds that other animals do not have (at least to a large degree) and serve ideas and ideals about life as opposed to simple survival. In this way, noble life is more of an interior quality-- more like living in the mind. Since nobility frees people from instinctive drives, it can be seen as more evolved... or "higher"... in a way; not restrained and bound by instinct and karma. In summary, nobility leads to "burning off karma", leading to freedom.
The ultimate trajectory of this-- presumably after one has experienced and learned from all of their mistakes-- would be a perfectly spiritual life-- and, thus, perfect freedom.
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