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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:50 pm to
About this time last year, there was a tropical system forecast for the southwest of Florida in models weeks out.
And it came to occur. Wasn't much,but it was accurate.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 4:52 pm to
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the pacific hurricane season is always more interesting

Except that none of them make landfall.
Posted by Boomtown
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 5:40 pm to
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Everything I'm reading suggests a weak hurricane season this year due to a potential strong El Nino year.


El Niño = colder Atlantic Ocean temperatures (global warming ) and warmer Pacific temperatures, specifically around Central America. Therefore it isn't out of the question that a storm can form on the pacific side of the Yucatan and cross into the gulf and restrengthen
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Therefore it isn't out of the question that a storm can form on the pacific side of the Yucatan and cross into the gulf and restrengthen


This almost never happens but occasionally an area of vorticity (the remnants) that becomes an Atlantic named stormed can tracked backed to the Pacific. Louisiana was hit by one such system in 1923. I think it is pretty clear why this doesn't happen more often.

Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 8:48 pm to
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2. Cat 3/4 Hurricane Katrina (2005)


You forgot Rita. She was a bad bitch and one that is too often overlooked.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:00 pm to
Rita? Katrina?

Never heard of 'em.

I'm at 38 feet of elevation now. Tornadoes are what I fear now.

Fingers crossed that Climate Change will equate to less and less-intense storms. Or at least NIMBY.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:02 pm to
Must be nice. Katrina completely changed my life.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:11 pm to
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Must be nice. Katrina completely changed my life.


Ignore the troll. Unless you experienced it, there is no comprehending the enormity of Katrina. I'll never forget passing Laplace on 10 and seeing an absolutely dead horizon where the skyline of New Orleans should have been. Or parking in the middle of the road, in the middle of the day and getting out to look at maps and then realizing there wasn't a car or person to be seen in any direction. Or having to pass through military checkpoints to get down to Plaquemines Parish...
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:21 pm to
I will. That summer was so devastating for most of the Northern GC. From Bayou La Batre, Al to the Texas coast. We haven't seen anything like it and probably won't again.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:02 pm to
18z GFS and GEFS are still pointing to something spinning up down there. The GFS has actually done better than the Euro with the upper low that has been meandering over NM/TX the last couple of days. That will be a key player, if something spins up. Also, the evolution of the western trough and east coast through/cut off low will be features to watch.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:38 pm to
You two missed my attempt at irony. I was in Waveland for Katrina. I'll just say it did not go well. That's why I said I'm now at 38 feet of elevation. The same snake will not bite me twice.

Troll accusation denied.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:29 am to
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You two missed my attempt at irony. I was in Waveland for Katrina. I'll just say it did not go well. That's why I said I'm now at 38 feet of elevation. The same snake will not bite me twice.

Troll accusation denied.


Cool, my apologies. It just seems like everyone is a troll nowadays.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26226 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:51 am to
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Everything I'm reading suggests a weak hurricane season this year due to a potential strong El Nino year.


Yep, everyone is predicting less storms because the fn idiots predict more than those that actually occur. They figure they better bring the average number back down. These predictions are so fn stupid.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:21 pm to
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The GFS model guidance continues to show the potential for tropical development in the western Caribbean


12z still on this and now brings something into the Gulf
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:19 pm to
The GFS just won't give up on spinning up a system and then eventually bringing it into the Gulf. The Euro still isn't really showing anything but it did make some significant changes at 12z, esp. in the upper levels. Both models produce a large area of unsettled weather stretching from the Yucatan back over into the Pacific. Red circle shows this area on the 18z GFS.



Anything that spins up will most likely be slow to develop, sheared out, and weak. Where have we seen that before It is really hard to bet on any of the possible solutions at this time given how the models continue to struggle with the 500mb pattern evolution across the mid-latitudes and the upper level pattern, esp. over the Gulf.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 10:56 pm to
Just please let something sit over the Hill Country of Texas for a few days and drop Biblical amounts of rain.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:24 pm to
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I will. That summer was so devastating for most of the Northern GC. From Bayou La Batre, Al to the Texas coast. We haven't seen anything like it and probably won't again.
It was so bad I don't even want to go there. Bad enough for myself but so much worse for other family all over SELA. Sobering. HUGE slam of reality.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:26 pm to
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I was in Waveland for Katrina. I'll just say it did not go well. That's why I said I'm now at 38 feet of elevation. The same snake will not bite me twice.
Geez, yeah, Waveland. If anywhere got it worse than NOLA, SELA in general it was the MS gulf coast. Decimated. I still sometimes stare at Google Earth at the before and after at the MS coast.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21271 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:45 am to
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Just please let something sit over the Hill Country of Texas for a few days and drop Biblical amounts of rain.


Y'all are actually doing pretty good so far this year, we are still struggling up here in DFW. Oklahoma is getting nut kicked and so is SW Louisiana.

YTD Departure from Normal Rainfall



We need to pull for El Nino and hope that the PDO & AMO trends continue through the winter.
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