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Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:52 pm to
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After their first year 51% of black students were in the bottom 10% of their class, compared to 5% of white students
What were they ranked after finishing med school?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:52 pm to
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Weird all together to bring that up when 1st meeting a doctor.


These were long term patients
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:54 pm to
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What were they ranked after finishing med school?


This was actually law school and they were 6x more likely to fail the bar you smartass

But again, you don’t have a logical response to the empirical data that is slapping you in the face
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20097 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:00 pm to
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What were they ranked after finishing med school?


Hmmm, I don’t think you take anything discussed in this thread seriously.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Hmmm, I don’t think you take anything discussed in this thread seriously.


If someone graduates from medical school in good standing are they qualified?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:04 pm to
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If someone graduates from medical school in good standing are they qualified?


Totally irrelevant to the conversation

We are trying to graduate the best doctors not just “qualified” doctors

If you need brain surgery I guarantee you aren’t going to the first “qualified” surgeon. You are going to ask who the best is. We should do the same at every step on the ladder.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6456 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Doctors want to only work 3-4 days a week now and don’t want anyone to know when they come in or leave. They call you under unknown numbers. The practice of medicine has fallen dramatically


Cultural/generational changes not limited to physicians.

Hell see the recent thread about quiet quitting etc. Definitely been a shift about focus to quality of life and time away from work and not to take work home.

Additionally the administrative burden of medicine has changed while reimbursement is the same or worse in many cases:
In the past docs could scribble unlegible notes on a chart/note card etc. - now they are 5 page notes for billing/reimbursement purposes. Do a procedure get paid, now it's fight for pre authorization and hope they still pay you.

Patients have more access to physicians then ever- patient portals, inbox messages, emails, phone calls all expecting physicians to do side work and not get paid for it(lawyers would be aghast). Previously the office phone number was the only way to reach the physician and for some reason people think physicians should call patients back from a personal cell phone number.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134154 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:12 pm to
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I am all for diversity, but wtf?



Yeah, and what has that gotten you?

Skin tone is a very stupid requisite if you want the best.

Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19206 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:14 pm to
Lies all Lies she can just identify as what she wants
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12327 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:43 pm to
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This was actually law school and they were 6x more likely to fail the bar you smartass

I already addressed this. Passing the bar is almost directly related to where you went to law school and how much time money you could put into studying for it. It has nothing to do with how good of a lawyer you will be.

Trust me, I know. I went to an elite law school, passed the bar with flying colors while stoned, and was a terrible practicing attorney.

It also has nothing to do with med school admissions, you smartass.
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But again, you don’t have a logical response to the empirical data that is slapping you in the face

lol. No "empirical data" you have cited supports your claims. Again, you may be a great doctor, but you suck at stats.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12327 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Hmmm, I don’t think you take anything discussed in this thread seriously.
Apparently neither is George Harrison WaaWaa
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:51 pm to
I was at an LSU med school event recently

Lots of white dudes
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:52 pm to
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Totally irrelevant to the conversation


So is black student qualifications.

Like I pontes out, there are a lot of white kids getting into med school. The number of black led students despite all the affirmative action is low. The basic premise that white male doctors are Disappearing is assuming.

And if it was true they’re being pushed out by women and Asians.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20830 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:53 pm to
A friend asked me what his son in law should do to get into med school?

I told him,”pretend to be gay.”

Statistically about 1 in 7 med students are gay now.

It’s what the administration wants.

Of course his son-in-law has a wife and 3 kids, but maybe he could just identify as a black lesbian.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:58 pm to
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I am all for diversity, but wtf?


Who tells us that diversity is good?

Who pushes this message?

Who tells us that White people can't have a homogeneous country. But don't push for diversity of India, don't push for diversity of China, don't push for diversity of Japan, don't push for diversity of Israel. Who pushes for diversity in only White countries? And why only White countries?

Racial diversity has never been proven to be advantageous. In fact it is quite the opposite.

So why is this idea being pushed upon us? And by whom?
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by minister of truth
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Member since May 2022
1883 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:11 pm to
Noted several posters make a similar comment. Hypothetically 99/100 may be white & better qualified but if slot #100 needs to be a specific gender or race to satisfy a quota & the better qualified person doesn’t get that position because of that selection criteria it’s still wrong
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72909 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:13 pm to
The story of my heart issues has been told here enough. The reason I got as sick as I did was twofold:

1. An Indian (dot) doctor that misdiagnosed stage 4 congestive heart failure (due to a defective mitral valve) as first asthma and then a week later as pneumonia.

2. A female ER doctor from the continent located directly south of Europe who, even after seeing a x-ray showing my enlarged heart, refused to a admit me to the hospital because “she saw no medical reason to admit me to the hospital”, even though I was so far into congestive heart failure my organs had already shut down. She did advise I see a cardiologist “after I was over pneumonia”. That’s the same fictitious pneumonia the Indian (dot) doctor originally misdiagnosed me with.

Less than a week after #2 happens, I visited a cardiologist. Just so happened to be an older white guy. He ran tests and immediately and correctly diagnosed the problem. He put me in the hospital where a heart surgeon, another older white guy, replaced my defective mistrial valve with a mechanical mitral valve. But due to the previous misdiagnosis by the the other doctors, the Indian (dot) and the one from the continent south of Europe, I’d got far sicker and come far closer to death than necessary. They did permanent damage to my heart and other organs. Had I not gone to the cardiologist, on my own I’d have now been in the ground for almost six years now.

FWIW… I never had either asthma or pneumonia. Take from that what you will.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10713 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:14 pm to
My favorite doctors are Indian. Very smart and the best bedside manner.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:15 pm to
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I already addressed this. Passing the bar is almost directly related to where you went to law school and how much time money you could put into studying for it. It has nothing to do with how good of a lawyer you will be.


I addressed you argument that black students go to worse schools by showing your statistics that look at their performance in individual schools

They were ranked significantly lower within their particular school

You keep ignoring that data
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Her problem, she was white with two doctor parents. So despite all this she was not admitted


Pardon my ignorance, but is there no legal recourse for this?
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