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Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42744 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:56 pm to
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Since the test scores aren’t important and if you pass your boards you are “qualified”.


They're definitely important for deciding admission to med school, but beyond that I want to see their professional track record.

If a 50-year-old heart surgeon has never lost a patient in the operating room, then I don't care what they scored on their MCAT.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:58 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
121297 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:57 pm to
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It took a combination of ethnicities of incompetent, non-communicative, lazy doctors to kill my step father-in-law. The entire field is broken by insurance and the pharmaceutical industry.



So if he had all whites working on him he would have lived?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:57 pm to
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It’s about a system to find the best, not graduating


Is it?

Because then there would be only Asians.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:58 pm to
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Is it? Because then there would be only Asians.


Fine. Why do you think I would care?

Stop projecting your racism on me.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42744 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:58 pm to
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So if he had all whites working on him he would have lived?



I think he's making the opposite point of what you're thinking.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72894 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:01 pm to
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Do you happen to know what their undergrad GPAs and MCAT scores were?


High enough that they in a matter of minutes diagnosed what the Indian and African doctors had misdiagnosed for months.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9977 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:02 pm to
It took me 4 tries to get in (white male). Not saying that was the reason, but it probably didn't help. I'm now happily at LSU-NO. Best school I could have asked for.

Now the fun part is doing the work...
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6456 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Physicians brought this upon themselves

Don't disagree.

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People have lost respect for them, rightfully so.


Agree. So when the nobility, respect, status of the profession has died, I'm not surprised that physicians want to be paid for their time, not be available 24/7,etc.

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More access? The dr isn’t emailing you back, some bimbo clerical nurse is


Eh. Sorry I'm not handwriting notes to you. Just because the nurse is responding to you doesn't mean the physician didn't provide that instruction or response. They could have said no and made you come in for the visit. I'm responding to phone calls, emails and message via the nurse all day between patients for a few minutes. I guess I could call you over lunch or after the day is done and delay getting back my home and family. Or I could be late and continue to run behind appointment schedule because I decided to call you back instead seeing the next patient. That way I get to hear the next complaint on how doctors are always late to their appointment. Lose lose situation.

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Doctors don’t care about anyones time, many of them think they are doing you a favor by seeing you even though they waste your time


Sorry you feel that way or that doctors made you feel thay way. As any in profession, many doctors suck, many doctors are doing their best to provide answers for not always clear diagnosis.

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you are paying them thru a black box system.


Doctors hate insurance, patients hate insurance. So why are we still using it? Dunno.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:12 pm to
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High enough that they in a matter of minutes diagnosed what the Indian and African doctors had misdiagnosed for months.



I was being a bit facetious with my response. But I wonder if they graduated from US medical schools and not foreign medical schools.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20089 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:14 pm to
What is lost on the people thinking melanin is a qualifying factor to Med School isn’t that I am arguing that more “whites” need to be admitted. In fact I am saying the only thing that should matter regardless your ethnicity is your academic achievement as delineated by the admissions standards……any argument against that is blatant racism. Being racist to correct past racism is wrong and actually ends up hurting the minority student as proven by Thomas Sowell.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 10:15 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39524 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:17 pm to
I think I found a likely reason for the elevated admission rates in certain cohorts. The likely reason is HBCUs, of which I think there are between 10 and 15 across the country. From a quick look, each has 100+ medical students per year and their demographics skew around 80% Black Americans at the minimum. That would almost certainly explain the discrepancy, and explain the remarkable consistency in the acceptance rate of black students as well as the wide point difference in terms of the White American acceptance rates versus the Black American acceptance rates.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72894 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:22 pm to
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I was being a bit facetious with my response. But I wonder if they graduated from US medical schools and not foreign medical schools.


No need to wonder. Both were born raised, and attended medical school in the US. I believe my cardiologist attended med school in Alabama. He retired a little over a year ago. As for my heart surgeon, this is him…

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Dr. John Casterline earned a Bachelor of Science degree from Wichita State University before attending the University of Kansas, School of Medicine. After graduation from medical school 1988, he served as a resident in general surgery for one year at the University of Kansas - Whichita. He then moved to Birmingham, where he completed his Residency and Post Doctorate Fellowship in Cardiothoracic and Endovascular Surgery at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

Dr. Casterline is board certified by The American Board of Surgery and The American Board of Thoracic Surgery. In addition to being a partner of Cardio Thoracic Surgeons, Dr. Casterline is a member of the American Medical Association, the Medical Association of the State of Alabama, Society of Thoracic Surgeons and the Jefferson County Medical Society. He is a member of the medical staff at Grandview Medical Center.


LINK
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:24 pm to
Sure he did.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42744 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:24 pm to
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The likely reason is HBCUs, of which I think there are between 10 and 15 across the country.


There's like 200
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:24 pm to
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No need to wonder. Both were born raised, and attended medical school in the US. I believe my cardiologist attended med school in Alabama. He retired a little over a year ago. As for my heart surgeon, this is him…



I meant the two screwups. If they graduated from overseas. There are also studies that show that foreign medical graduates have the highest rate of medicare fraud.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39524 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:25 pm to
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There's like 200


I'm referring specifically to medical schools, you moron.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:26 pm to
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I was being a bit facetious with my response. But I wonder if they graduated from US medical schools and not foreign medical schools.


Why would that matter? If they are board certified they are “qualified” right?

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I meant the two screwups. If they graduated from overseas. There are also studies that show that foreign medical graduates have the highest rate of medicare fraud.


This is hilarious. People go to the foreign and Caribbean schools because the standards for admission are lower. Just a few posts ago you were arguing that the standards don’t really matter and all that matters is that you graduate.

You just destroyed your own argument
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:28 pm to
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I think I found a likely reason for the elevated admission rates in certain cohorts. The likely reason is HBCUs, of which I think there are between 10 and 15 across the country. From a quick look, each has 100+ medical students per year and their demographics skew around 80% Black Americans at the minimum. That would almost certainly explain the discrepancy, and explain the remarkable consistency in the acceptance rate of black students as well as the wide point difference in terms of the White American acceptance rates versus the Black American acceptance rates.


So you are saying medical schools aren’t actually looking at race?
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:30 pm to
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I am all for diversity, but wtf?


That’s the error right there. They prey on your weakness, take advantage, then go on the offensive

Communists are an insidious breed. Their goal is the destruction of the white race
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
121297 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:31 pm to
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I'm referring specifically to medical schools, you moron.



There are 39 HBCU med schools... Moron.
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