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re: Experiences with anti-depressants
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:47 am to LSUJML
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:47 am to LSUJML
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One thing to note is they aren’t going to give you a high dose of anything to start
It’s a lot of trial & error but things can be better with a low dose medicine
buddy of mine was losing his job and wife and kids all at once...20 (ish) years ago
went to Dr who put him on Zoloft...high dose right out the gate
What I was told that became apparent years later is, that you go down emotionally before you starting going up...he took his own life before the meds started working.
So my advice to the OP is:
1) meds are great, but talk to your doctor and educate yourself reading before during and afterwards.
2) dont bear that burden alone...family and friends should be keyed in so they can support and monitor you
3) FOLLOW THE DOSAGE - dont get off once you start feeling better lik alot of people do saying "i dont need it anymore" you will crash hard
4) Mix in exercise and lifestyle changes immediately
Good luck to you
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:05 am to kingbob
I would recommend a therapist for anybody who can afford it. But in your case, I would say it's vital that you see one at least bi-weekly. I don't know what your insurance situation is, but with mine I only pay a $20 copay for in network therapist. That part would probably be more important than the medicine part, although I'm not shitting on medicine. Just saying, you need to make a lifestyle change to experience any relief. The meds only take you so far.
And that is especially true when it comes to panic attacks. I used to have them so bad it affected every facet of my life. From school to work to friends to family. I avoided doing anything out of fear of having a panic attack. Meds helped get me started towards relief, but therapists, self help books, religion, spirituality, all of the above. It was an "all hands on deck" approach. Here I am 20 years later, and have not had a panic attack in about ten years.
There is tons of material to read about but I'll help you out and give you a real basic summary in so many words. Panic attacks are basically about not being in control. And to fight that notion is a losing battle. The more you fight, the worse the panic attacks get. What worked for me is to get spiritual and realize that I'm not in control, but a loving and caring Supreme Being (God) is in control and has our best interest in consideration at all times. Like I said, that is what worked for me. It took off from there. I went from being agnostic to now extremely spiritual. I wouldn't say that I'm an active church member, but the fact that I came from where I was to where I am today in at least going to church every now and then is saying something.
I hope that you find some relief. For me, the panic attacks were the worst part. I straight up failed tests in classes at LSU because I started having them in the middle of taking tests. And of course, the professor doesn't believe you and doesn't give you any help. And your boss doesn't understand if you call in sick several times a month. And your friends think you're blowing them all off and being selfish, as does your family. It fricking sucks!
And that is especially true when it comes to panic attacks. I used to have them so bad it affected every facet of my life. From school to work to friends to family. I avoided doing anything out of fear of having a panic attack. Meds helped get me started towards relief, but therapists, self help books, religion, spirituality, all of the above. It was an "all hands on deck" approach. Here I am 20 years later, and have not had a panic attack in about ten years.
There is tons of material to read about but I'll help you out and give you a real basic summary in so many words. Panic attacks are basically about not being in control. And to fight that notion is a losing battle. The more you fight, the worse the panic attacks get. What worked for me is to get spiritual and realize that I'm not in control, but a loving and caring Supreme Being (God) is in control and has our best interest in consideration at all times. Like I said, that is what worked for me. It took off from there. I went from being agnostic to now extremely spiritual. I wouldn't say that I'm an active church member, but the fact that I came from where I was to where I am today in at least going to church every now and then is saying something.
I hope that you find some relief. For me, the panic attacks were the worst part. I straight up failed tests in classes at LSU because I started having them in the middle of taking tests. And of course, the professor doesn't believe you and doesn't give you any help. And your boss doesn't understand if you call in sick several times a month. And your friends think you're blowing them all off and being selfish, as does your family. It fricking sucks!
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:38 am to RealityTiger
See, the religion thing is difficult for me, because I used to speak with God regularly (or at least hear a voice in my head that I assumed might be God or at least was my own inner monologue telling me what I wanted God to tell me), but I feel that I was led astray and sent down the wrong path. I feel like I was told the meaning of life and then told that my life was not meant to serve that purpose. Plus, I can’t get communion due to my divorce (which, as you can imagine, I didn’t ask for) and I have no idea why it still hasn’t been annulled despite signing paperwork over a year ago, but the whole concept is silly to me in the first place. I made a vow to God and to my wife, meant every word, and fought like hell to uphold it. She, not me, violated that vow and unilaterally ended it, and I have to be denied access to sacraments as a result? I get to be the wronged party AND shunned and kicked out anyways?
Plus, with Covid making attendance at mass, where I can’t recieve communion anyways, and my nearby church having a priest whom I find to be a total hypocrite, I just can’t seem to get back into organized religion.
I have always had a pretty unshakable faith that god helps those who would help themselves, to treat my neighbors as myself, to judge not lest ye be judged for judgment is reserved for thine father in heaven and all that jazz, but it just feels like words to me now. It just feels like decent principles to live by, not a solution to my problems which all start and end with myself.
ETA: in case y’all think I’m just crazy, I make no denials that I have completely lost my mind, but I feel the fact that I’m aware of it means I can’t be completely crazy, right? Or is it somehow worse that I can totally see my already tenuous hold on what is real and what isn’t getting looser each day, like trying to remember what memories are real and what were dreams and if the distinction even matters anymore.
Plus, with Covid making attendance at mass, where I can’t recieve communion anyways, and my nearby church having a priest whom I find to be a total hypocrite, I just can’t seem to get back into organized religion.
I have always had a pretty unshakable faith that god helps those who would help themselves, to treat my neighbors as myself, to judge not lest ye be judged for judgment is reserved for thine father in heaven and all that jazz, but it just feels like words to me now. It just feels like decent principles to live by, not a solution to my problems which all start and end with myself.
ETA: in case y’all think I’m just crazy, I make no denials that I have completely lost my mind, but I feel the fact that I’m aware of it means I can’t be completely crazy, right? Or is it somehow worse that I can totally see my already tenuous hold on what is real and what isn’t getting looser each day, like trying to remember what memories are real and what were dreams and if the distinction even matters anymore.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 9:52 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:49 am to kingbob
I agree with you on religion. Was raised catholic, but not practicing and have similar opinions on religious hypocrisy. However I'd go in my difficult times just to basically meditate and take in the good vibes while ignoring the crap I don't agree with. Certainly don't have to go to church to do that, but when the problems are possibly at home, its a good escape and reminder to just focus on self betterment. However misguided it may be in your opinion, most everyone there is looking for that same thing, so its a good place to stay focused on that task.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:04 am to kingbob
The SSRI that I take has completely changed my life for the better. I didn't "feel like myself" for the past few years. Now I do. The most immediate change that I noticed was not getting pissed off at life's inevitable little stressors. My marriage is now successful. I am now happy to come home and see my wife after work now, rather than dreading the thought of hearing about her day. I was a shitty person and a shitty husband.
I also quit drinking a few months ago. That has probably been the biggest and most important change I've made. I was drinking because I was stressed, anxious, and depressed; I didn't realize that my drinking was exacerbating my stress, anxiety, and depression.
I also quit drinking a few months ago. That has probably been the biggest and most important change I've made. I was drinking because I was stressed, anxious, and depressed; I didn't realize that my drinking was exacerbating my stress, anxiety, and depression.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:20 am to kingbob
Hey bro. Love ya and I just wanted to chime in and recommend mindfulness meditation with the HeadSpace app. It seriously changed my life. Not only can it help resolve depression/anxiety at the root, but it can reword your brain to live in the moment and enjoy life - regardless of situation.
Many start meditation while on medication and end up successfully weening off and never going back.
Many start meditation while on medication and end up successfully weening off and never going back.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:32 am to kingbob
I was on Cymbalta for probably 3-4 years after my Dad died and went through a really tough bout with it. I never liked the way it made me feel or thought it made that much of a difference. I was glad I took them for the rough time I was going through but was ultimately happier to finally quit taking them. (I felt more like my old self)
It seemed to dull things out for me where I was emotionless and just apathetic and I also gained probably 50 lbs while taking it.
It seemed to dull things out for me where I was emotionless and just apathetic and I also gained probably 50 lbs while taking it.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 10:36 am to Triple Bogey
So. What I have learned from this thread is that all the pills have side effects like suicidal thoughts, weight gain, zero sex drive, and feeling completely numb and emotionless, but they also might work. Yay...
I definitely can’t afford more weigh gain, that’s probably number 1 on my list of things I already hate about myself and I already can’t fit into most of my clothes and cannot seem to stick to any exercise regimen with consistency.
I definitely can’t afford more weigh gain, that’s probably number 1 on my list of things I already hate about myself and I already can’t fit into most of my clothes and cannot seem to stick to any exercise regimen with consistency.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:13 am to kingbob
How much alcohol are you drinking?
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:17 am to kingbob
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So. What I have learned from this thread is that all the pills have side effects like suicidal thoughts, weight gain, zero sex drive, and feeling completely numb and emotionless, but they also might work. Yay...
Huh
It’s weird they only put white people on these medicines
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:17 am to kingbob
Those never worked for me.
Eta
And I like to be able to get my dick hard. I could be running down the street like in a wonderful life, but if the dick isn't working then its all for nothing.
Eta
And I like to be able to get my dick hard. I could be running down the street like in a wonderful life, but if the dick isn't working then its all for nothing.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:18 am to Mr Personality
I oscillate between straight edge and one to two drinks/day almost biweekly. I rarely allow myself to get seriously drunk because I don’t like being dizzy, I hate having to rely on other people to take care of me while drunk (because they never do), I’m usually driving (thank god for uber these days), and I’ve become a very sad drunk, which isn’t fun for me or anyone else for that matter.
I can’t figure out if I’m drinking too much or not enough, all I know is that I’m straight up not having a good time.
I can’t figure out if I’m drinking too much or not enough, all I know is that I’m straight up not having a good time.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:42 am to kingbob
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This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:50 am to kingbob
A small benzo works miracles for me but every time I go in for anxiety they try giving me anti depressants. I’ve been to multiple doctors trying to explain but they aren’t having any of it. The most recent medication they prescribed made me feel like I snorted blow off of a whores tit.
Not sure what else to do besides get what I need off the street at the risk of buying fake, and possibly deadly shite.
Not sure what else to do besides get what I need off the street at the risk of buying fake, and possibly deadly shite.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 11:53 am to kingbob
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kingbob
You live close enough to the church we attend. Come listen to Kurt Jones at Fellowship Church on Hwy 73 on Sunday. Plenty of former catholics there, including myself. It's helped me beyond words in the 1+ years we have been going there. Its the most honest and open church I've even been to.
Fellowship Church
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 12:03 pm to kingbob
I have had issues with anger management, depression and anxiety for years. I'm a road rager type. My temper most of my life went from 0 to 100 in a millisecond, where I was ready to kill people. I had friends talk to me and tell me they were concerned for my health. Didn't want me to fly off the handle and drop dead from a heart attack... or get shot.
One day I got pissed off about something and it turned into one of the worst panic attacks of my life. Thought I was having a heart attack.
Went to the Doc and got a prescription for Zoloft. It has definitely helped. I haven't had a panic attack since that one. I still have a bad temper and road rage but not nearly as bad and when I get super pissed, it only lasts minute or so and I calm down. Depression is still there at times but not nearly as bad as it was before Zoloft. Haven't noticed any side effects, other than it can take a long time to achieve orgasm but no ED issues.
I'd recommend Zoloft based on my experience.
One day I got pissed off about something and it turned into one of the worst panic attacks of my life. Thought I was having a heart attack.
Went to the Doc and got a prescription for Zoloft. It has definitely helped. I haven't had a panic attack since that one. I still have a bad temper and road rage but not nearly as bad and when I get super pissed, it only lasts minute or so and I calm down. Depression is still there at times but not nearly as bad as it was before Zoloft. Haven't noticed any side effects, other than it can take a long time to achieve orgasm but no ED issues.
I'd recommend Zoloft based on my experience.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 12:08 pm to kingbob
I don’t have any experience with this because like you, I have an aversion to medication - namely because the side effects seem so much worse...I would be even more suicidal if my dick quit working, for example. I probably check the boxes for quite a few mental health issues, but I’ve chosen to simply live with them even if it means my quality of life ain’t so great sometimes (e.g. insomnia and lack of sleep).
You’re a better man than me for considering/utilizing both therapy and medication, that means you’re a man of action who is serious about improving himself. I’ve always enjoyed your posts and you’ve been very transparent and honest about the difficulties you’ve faced; that’s a nice break from all the blow-hard boasting and picking at each other that goes on here. I hope you find a solution that works for you, you seem like a cool dude who deserves to be happy (unlike Oweo).
You’re a better man than me for considering/utilizing both therapy and medication, that means you’re a man of action who is serious about improving himself. I’ve always enjoyed your posts and you’ve been very transparent and honest about the difficulties you’ve faced; that’s a nice break from all the blow-hard boasting and picking at each other that goes on here. I hope you find a solution that works for you, you seem like a cool dude who deserves to be happy (unlike Oweo).
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:16 pm to kingbob
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Plus, I can’t get communion due to my divorce (which, as you can imagine, I didn’t ask for)
Yeah, frick that.
Communion is between you God. No priest, preacher, deacon, etc, knows your heart, and none should have the power to deprive you of it.
If taking communion is important to you, go to a Catholic mass where the priest doesnt know you or go to a Protestant church.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:19 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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go to a Catholic mass where the priest doesnt know
Then I’m just a lier. Screw them for their dumb rule, but screw me for passing myself off as devout while not following said rules. Better off not going than participating in a dishonorable fashion.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:20 pm to kingbob
quote:Not sure I would agree with this as a Catholic.
Better off not going than participating in a dishonorable fashion.
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