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Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:16 am to
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:16 am to
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You can’t bring a shotgun to a fist fight and then claim self defense because the other guy grabbed it.


Yes you can


But you cannot be the obvious initial aggressor, fire a shot before the guy tried to take your gun, then claim self defense
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19966 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:18 am to
Jesus. Did anyone read the letter? The DA clearly explains why he is refusing himself.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

you shouldn't be giving your opinion on the case in order to make your friend look better


Maybe the more factual knowledge is what's doing that. You do not know.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:20 am to
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MAYBE this guy really was up to no good ,


Based on what evidence? How would the two suspects even begin to know his motive?


Yet you do the same with the suspects.

quote:

Lets base opinions off of actual evidence instead of making conclusions like lebron james did instantly claiming all blacks are being hunted.


Get out with this shite.


Yes, Lebron is full of it so we should get out with his shite.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19966 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:21 am to
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But you cannot be the obvious initial aggressor, fire a shot before the guy tried to take your gun, then claim self defense


Read the letter at the link. Their analysis shows that Aubrey crosses from the right side of the truck to the left, advances on the guy with the shotgun and grabs it. A shot is fired only after he has his hands on the shotgun. That is a justifiable shooting per the law.

Now I have only watched the video on a phone screen and can’t say all of that is accurate. But that is what the DA is saying.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87795 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:23 am to
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Based on what evidence? How would the two suspects even begin to know his motive?


Not defending the guys, but because of his record of stealing.

Doesn't give you the right to kill him because you saw him at a construction site.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:23 am to
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Yet you do the same with the suspects.


Because even if the jogger had committed a crime, the two guys in the truck are not inherently in the right. Was he an imminent threat to anyone at that time? Was he actively in the process if committing a crime? Maybe, maybe not. So, yeah. I’m questioning them hard because they’re not the one’s who are dead. Their actions caused the death of someone else.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3244 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Read the letter at the link. Their analysis shows that Aubrey crosses from the right side of the truck to the left, advances on the guy with the shotgun and grabs it. A shot is fired only after he has his hands on the shotgun. That is a justifiable shooting per the law.

The point is this DA is biased and had to recuse herself. The police wanted to arrest these dudes and she told them not to. Any statement she makes should be viewed as a biased report that is attempting to clear her friend
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8758 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:25 am to
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Did anyone read the letter? The DA clearly explains why he is refusing himself.


Sigh...

So, you are literally going to ignore the myriad of evidence and latch on to this one line.

Why?
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8758 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:26 am to
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because of his record of stealing.


They knew that?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:26 am to
“I have a conflict of interest and therefore can’t be objective or fair. Now let me tell you why they shouldn’t be arrested.”

You see the problem?
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1110 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:27 am to
You know why
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27676 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:27 am to
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Yes you can


You can but you can’t instigate the fist fight. Off of your property while trying some half assed blockade.

You could have video of that guy rummaging through construction sites and those 2 would still be in the wrong for executing a burglar who didn’t even steal anything. Call 911. Get behind the dude and follow til the Po Po show up.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Read the letter at the link. Their analysis shows that Aubrey crosses from the right side of the truck to the left, advances on the guy with the shotgun and grabs it. A shot is fired only after he has his hands on the shotgun. That is a justifiable shooting per the law.


It’s not that cut and dry. You can also argue he attacked because he felt threatened by a guy with a gun. Which holds more water than a guy with a gun being threatened by a jogger. The life of the guy in the truck was not in imminent danger. If it was, it’s only because he put himself there. He instigated.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Read the letter at the link. Their analysis shows that Aubrey crosses from the right side of the truck to the left, advances on the guy with the shotgun and grabs it. A shot is fired only after he has his hands on the shotgun. That is a justifiable shooting per the law.


He’s saying the “initial aggressor” is the father/son by chasing him with a truck and their firearms and attempting to corner him.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:29 am to
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Not defending the guys, but because of his record of stealing


They had no way of knowing his record.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:29 am to
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Jesus. Did anyone read the letter? The DA clearly explains why he is refusing himself.


If you recuse, you shouldn’t offer an opinion. If you can reasonably and fairly offer an opinion, you shouldn’t recuse.

If you recuse AND offer an opinion, you are full of shite and I don’t give much weight to what you say.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65743 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:29 am to
Cant really tell in the video when the first shot is fired when I watched it. neither of them were in the cameras view. But that's what this DA is saying so prepare for riots
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:31 am to
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But you cannot be the obvious initial aggressor, fire a shot before the guy tried to take your gun, then claim self defense


If I bring a gun to a fistfight, I can absolutely use the gun IF at some point if I feel my life is in danger.
I'm responding to that..not you and others changing the situation.
Grave danger....I assume risk when fist fighting..but if the guy stomps on my head, I can pull out a pistol and defend myself against dying.

Works both ways with hypotheticals
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 10:32 am to
It’s really all irrelevant. If the two guys in the truck can’t prove that they saw him commit a crime or prove he was an immediate threat to the community, they are fricked.
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