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Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:41 am to
The i10-i12 split seemed to take forever.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:41 am to
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how can they propose this sweeping of a change without taking the busses into consideration? classic BR



From 11/29
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One feature has not made it into designs: bus pull-outs for the Capital Area Transit System. On Wednesday, CATS spokeswoman Amie McNaylor said the agency is still talking with the state and the city-parish but nothing has been finalized. Raiford said authorities are investigating whether any property owners might sell or donate land where buses can pull off the road to load and unload passengers.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6806 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:43 am to
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It’s almost as bad as it the governor and DOTD wanting to add another lane both ways on I-10 to the split.


Should have been done decades ago. Delaying it further will only make things worse.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:45 am to
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I don't understand why we don't pay for these with tolls.
Louisiana is still trying to figure out how to link your toll tag to your W2.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37912 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:52 am to
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Please inform everyone where the funding for this $1B+ project will come from,




muh gastax
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6806 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:54 am to
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We need to basically turn airline hwy from old bridge to 12 into some sort of quasi interstate.



Pretty sure William Daniel ran for mayor pitching this idea back in like 2004. I liked it then.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4143 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:55 am to
People don’t realize that this road diet is meant to encourage people to use the roads that surround government street. It’s not meant to increase traffic on the street. It’s meant to decrease traffic on the street by it being slower. I assume all these people trying to say I’m an idiot are the DOTD engineers who have screwed up traffic for so long.

As far as the bridge, my alternate route would be through Iberville Parish. It wouldn’t cost $1 billion because it would be a toll bridge and it would be be only two lanes both ways. Also, another toll would come from connecting it through the basin most likely to Grosse Tette.

I’m not an engineer but I read maps and understand traffic flow. As far as a northern loop, I’ll save that for another day.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69791 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 8:55 am to
There are two issues with the road diet, though:

CATS Busses - these damn things clog the entire right lane by stopping every 50 feet and sitting there for 5 minutes at a time. With each direction being only one lane, they will be impossible to avoid. There are 12 bus stops on that stretch of gvt street, only three of which have room for busses to pull off of the road. Unless they plan on getting the busses off gvt, I cannot support this plan.

Lack of alternative routes to Jefferson Highway. They hope most through traffic will divert to North Blvd, but North dead-ends at Foster. That stretch of foster between gvt and Florida is already a clusterf$&k, and Florida doesn’t intersect Jefferson. The intersection of gvt and foster is a major spot for traffic backups, especially whenever claycut is closed.

The road diet is a bad idea.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 8:57 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37912 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:01 am to
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People don’t realize that this road diet is meant to encourage people to use the roads that surround government street.



oh, so like a little kid that cleans his room by pusing all the shite under the bed, officials don't really want to FIX the traffic problem. They just want to move the traffic from Govt. street to surrounding arteries (that are no better designed to handle the traffic)?
Posted by teambooyah
Member since Aug 2015
145 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:03 am to
If you paid attention while driving Government, you would see that all the traffic is due to left turns and the absence of a turn lane.

I have given up arguing for this project. Nobody will budge on either side. All I know is that it's happening so quit complaining and find another soap box worth standing on.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73795 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:04 am to
Sort of bummed I didn't hold on to my rental property on Acadian a block off government. I liked the neighborhood, but there was nothing in the area but pharmacies. (Seriously all three national chains on one corner)
Took a hit on it too since I purchased during katrina aftermath.
Posted by Quinn225
Member since May 2017
408 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:04 am to
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The road diet is the worst idea I’ve seen yet that has been embraced by a majority of idiots. Only in Baton Rouge can you regress and it be considered progress. It’s almost as bad as it the governor and DOTD wanting to add another lane both ways on I-10 to the split. Let’s screw up traffic for 7 years and make everybody more miserable driving in Baton Rouge everyday.

The civil engineers have screwed our roadways up for the last 50 years. They are a bunch of dumbasses. Build a bridge south of Baton Rouge and be done with it. You’ll cut out a ton of traffic going through the city and not stopping the in the metro area.

I was born and raised in this city and it has gone to shite ever since the great New Orleans flood.




Blah blah blah...You aren't an engineer. The End.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73795 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:06 am to
In the scheme of things a billion dollar bridge is doable. Though I heard the state has $5b in road protects to complete before even starting the new airport access.

They spent a lot more than$1b widening the Huey P here.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:06 am to
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Pretty sure William Daniel ran for mayor pitching this idea back in like 2004. I liked it then.

I'm positive this was the original plan when I-10 was being developed. Instead of getting a I-410(we had a number designated and all) bypass we got 110 because funding was cut.
So few people realize how fricked we've been for so long.



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In the original 1955 plan for urban Interstate Highways, numbered by 1959, the Baton Rouge bypass was designated Interstate 410; it would have connected to Interstate 10 on both ends (as I-10 would have used the US 190 corridor immediately west of Baton Rouge, still crossing the Atchafalaya Swamp in its present location). The route was cancelled by the end of the 1960s (and the number was later reused for another Interstate 410).
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by Quinn225
Member since May 2017
408 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:06 am to
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CATS Busses - these damn things clog the entire right lane by stopping every 50 feet and sitting there for 5 minutes at a time. With each direction being only one lane, they will be impossible to avoid. There are 12 bus stops on that stretch of gvt street, only three of which have room for busses to pull off of the road. Unless they plan on getting the busses off gvt, I cannot support this plan.



They are getting the buses off of Government St. Damn...Doesn't anyone actually read about projects before spouting off opinions about it?
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:07 am to
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I can’t wait for them to complete this and see how much it changes the neighborhood. I’d love for a naysayer to find one instance where adding pedestrian and bike friendly infrastructure to a similar roadway resulted in a negative impact. I’d bet it’s 1/100 at the very most


I live in mid city, so I'm all for this. Capital Hights is much nicer now that's its a one way street.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80616 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:09 am to
That Government street thing will be nothing but a pure clusterfrick.

I 100% hope I am wrong
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73795 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:10 am to
I hate how bikers can't be decent enough to drive on parallel roads. Like frick everyone who rides a bike up and down magazine street.
I rode my bike from kenner to a friend's house off magazine and didn't need to ride down magazine. I kept on the neighborhoods where cars stay under 20mph.

Then the idiots who blow through stop signs and get mad at you when you didn't yield.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40683 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:19 am to
One thing that's interesting when talking about funding for a new bridge is this. What about all the lost productivity by not having the bridge? How much economic loss occurs when 100,000 people are losing hours and hours a year in traffic? Wouldn't that increase marginal revenues?

But that's just the way things are.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:23 am to
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Yeah frick pedestrian and bike friendly infrastructure. Only the worst cities in the country spend money on that.



But muh F350 King Ranch!
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