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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:12 pm to
None of this matters. The only thing that matters is that George broke the law… the cops were called… if he would have NOT broken the law the cops would not have been called… end of story.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:12 pm to
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you know you could give a living dope fiend a blood analysis that will show he probably has a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system???... it means absolutely nothing...

maybe he doesn't understand how it works

quote:

BAC 0.30% to 0.40%: In this percentage range, you'll likely have alcohol poisoning, a potentially life-threatening condition, and experience loss of consciousness. BAC Over 0.40%: This is a potentially fatal blood alcohol level.

meanwhile there are plenty of alcoholics that go above 0.4% on a bender every weekend.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:14 pm to
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None of this matters. The only thing that matters is that George broke the law… the cops were called… if he would have NOT broken the law the cops would not have been called… end of story.

that's incorrect, as proven by the court of law.

police have a responsibility to keep a suspect safe after they are in their custody, because until they have their day in court, they are not guilty.

it is the cops' responsibility that they live to see that day in court. Floyd was no longer a threat to the police after being restrained and taken down.
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:19 pm to
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None of this matters. The only thing that matters is that George broke the law… the cops were called… if he would have NOT broken the law the cops would not have been called… end of story.


Not worth entertaining this line of thinking... my neighbor next door called the police on a neighbor around the corner last weekend... he was drunk and belligerent when the cops showed up... even resisted arrest... cops manhandled him got him the car... he needed to be arrested... it never crossed my mind that he probably should be killed
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:22 pm to
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maybe he doesn't understand how it works


What the hell are you talking about... what does BAC have to do with this
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:22 pm to
So you are gonna forget that George tried to pass a fake bill??? I mean if he does not do this then the cops are not even called… everything started with George BREAKING THE LAW…. There is no debate… what people don’t want to see this is beyond me.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
Why not… are you saying George didn’t break the law??? If so you are the most idiotic person ever.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5851 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
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So you are gonna forget that George tried to pass a fake bill??? I mean if he does not do this then the cops are not even called… everything started with George BREAKING THE LAW….


What arrest doesn't start with someone allegedly breaking the law???...
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:26 pm to
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What the hell are you talking about... what does BAC have to do with this

that "lethal limit" doesn't mean you die if you are over it. works the same with Alcohol and Fentanyl. addicts of drug/alcohol go over the "lethal limit" without dying all the time.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:26 pm to
If he doesn’t break the law we are not having this conversation. That is a FACT.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:28 pm to
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If he doesn’t break the law we are not having this conversation. That is a FACT.

ok so you are fine with people being killed if they are arrested.

if that is the standard then we might as well change our entire constitution to make police officers Judge, Jury, and Executioner.

Get rid of the entire 6th Amendment which guarantees the rights of criminal defendants, including the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5851 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Why not… are you saying George didn’t break the law???


No one ever said he didn't break the law ... the argument is the idiot shouldn't have kneeled on his neck for 9 minutes...
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5851 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:30 pm to
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that "lethal limit" doesn't mean you die if you are over it. works the same with Alcohol and Fentanyl. addicts of drug/alcohol go over the "lethal limit" without dying all the time.


This only proves the obvious... that he wasn't dead before the cops arrived
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5851 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:32 pm to
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If he doesn’t break the law we are not having this conversation. That is a FACT.


Ok... if he doesn't have his neck kneeled on for 9 minutes we also aren't having this conversation... This is also a FACT
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:33 pm to
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the argument is the idiot shouldn't have kneeled on his neck for 9 minutes...
there are other people who the cop knelt upon their necks

I wonder for what length of time
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:36 pm to
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there are other people who the cop knelt upon their necks

I wonder for what length of time

must not have been long enough to violate their 6th amendment right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.

The only way a cop can LEGALLY deny this right is in self defense, under imminent threat to themselves or others.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60009 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:38 pm to
Yeah, I have no idea, and I’m not making any assumptions.

The other people are suing the city of Minneapolis now, so maybe we will find out.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:38 pm to
But if he doesn’t break the law the is no cop to kneel on his neck. I can’t believe you are this dense.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:41 pm to
No I’m not in favor of anyone getting killed
If they are arrested.. but I have a problem with the fact that he DID break the law and you seem to be giving him a pass for that. Which makes you look stupid.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5851 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 12:45 pm to
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But if he doesn’t break the law the is no cop to kneel on his neck. I can’t believe you are this dense.


Let's review what the Constitution says about the matter

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.[1]

Basically you can't kill the person at the time of arrest... unless for self defense
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