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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:07 am to
Through prayer and self discovery you can cure alcoholism and gayness. I'd say that's a pretty big breakthrough.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:07 am to
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Cancer foundations raise millions and millions of dollars, with very little actually going to research


Yeah, you couldn't be more wrong. At least as far as St. Jude is concerned.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:07 am to
They have functioning artificial hearts.




Should I keep going?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:08 am to
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CURE FOR CANCER (leukemia, etc.)
Cancer is not nearly the death sentence it once was. There have been significant breakthroughs in cancer treatment, and in many cases, yes, it is "cured."
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am to
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Yeah, you couldn't be more wrong. At least as far as St. Jude is concerned.


He is right about SOME organizations.

The breast cancer Susan Komen shite is super corrupt. They sue people for using the color pink. Its a full on for-profit business at this point.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am to
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They have functioning artificial hearts.


The difference being that the polio vaccine was administered to an entire population shortly after discovery. How many people do you know with Tupperware hearts?
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7732 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:09 am to
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They have prosthetic limbs that can be controlled by the mind now and this guy thinks there haven't been any medical breakthroughs. They have pills that give you instant boners. They can genetically modify zygotes to not have birth defects. Either the OP is trolling or he doesn't pay attention.

No, actually you're not paying attention. None of those you cited made headlines. Cure for the other stuff I mentioned would.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:12 am to
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Has there been no SIGNIFICANT medical breakthroughs......
since 1955 when the cure for polio was announced?


Umm....there have been a TON of medical breakthroughs since 1955.

How many vaccines have there been since 1955? Rubella, chicken pox, meningitis, hep B? Artificial organs? Stem cell research?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:12 am to
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No, actually you're not paying attention. None of those you cited made headlines. Cure for the other stuff I mentioned would.



Yes, yes they do.

And if you're looking for science/medicine headlines on front pages in the modern world, you're looking in the wrong place. Those are too filled with transgenders and race baiters.

There is incredible shite going on right now in science and medicine and people only care to talk about Bruce Jenner cutting his dick off.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:12 am to
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Umm....there have been a TON of medical breakthroughs since 1955.

How many vaccines have there been since 1955? Rubella, chicken pox, meningitis, hep B? Artificial organs? Stem cell research?
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
18106 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:12 am to
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Cures dont make money


Idiot.

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Too much money in diseases for there to be a cure


Idiot.

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There's no incentive to cure that shite. It's too lucrative to just treat it


Idiot.

Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7732 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:12 am to
Actually the heart transplant made headlines by Dr. Barnard in 1967.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:13 am to
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He is right about SOME organizations.

The breast cancer Susan Komen shite is super corrupt.


Oh, I know this. Full well. I was just carving out St. Jude as one of the good guys. (not that there's really any need to do so).
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20539 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:13 am to
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Yeah, you couldn't be more wrong. At least as far as St. Jude is concerned.



St. Jude is an outlier. Check out some of the big money cancer foundations. The pink ribbon is big business.
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
1835 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:16 am to
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Cancer foundations raise millions and millions of dollars, with very little actually going to research. A cure for cancer today would end the gravy train for a lot of folks.


Maybe because those millions and millions go to treating people who can't afford the treatments? Not all organizations are that altruistic, but many are. I can't stand Susan B. Cohen, and have refused to put any of their information out in my office.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15127 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:17 am to
Not to beat a dead horse but there is no money in cures. There's a fortune in treatments though. And guess where most of the research money comes from - big pharma. They are not going to find a cure for their lifelong annuities of cancer, diabetes, etc.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7601 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:20 am to


average life expectancy has increased nearly 15 years since 1955

I'd say weve made some progress
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:20 am to
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Not to beat a dead horse but there is no money in cures. There's a fortune in treatments though. And guess where most of the research money comes from - big pharma. They are not going to find a cure for their lifelong annuities of cancer, diabetes, etc.



I am friends with a biomedical engineer for a cancer research institute in Nashville and he is disgusted when he hears people say shite like this. I have talked to him about it a couple times.

Says its patently false. If there was a cure, it would still cost a shite ton of money. That is not the same as a vaccine, which probably can't exist for cancer because they are all so different. So the same amount of people would get cancer, they'd just be able to cure it paying a lot of money.

Plus he is offended by the notion people think him and his colleagues aren't actually trying to find cures.


ETA:

But he doesn't work for big pharma directly.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:21 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:23 am to
A lot of research is done at schools or specialty clinics (MD Anderson). Their funding comes from all over though
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7732 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:24 am to
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And if you're looking for science/medicine headlines on front pages in the modern world, you're looking in the wrong place. Those are too filled with transgenders and race baiters.

You are being naive if you don't think a cure for cancer, etc. wouldn't make headlines like this.
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