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re: Haven't drank for 7 days
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:05 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:05 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Yeah, no thanks. I dont need a pill to run my life.
Did you read the actual article? Only in rare cases do patients that go to the clinics based on Sinclair's work have to remain on naltrexone for life.
The majority of people on it are on it temporarily, and are then able to resume drinking at normal levels afterwords.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:07 pm to Centinel
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And I prefer to be sober and happy based on scientific and medical principles, not religious ones.
There's not a single religious thing about AA. I'm not religious and I don't have to rely of medication. Sounds like the best of both to me.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:10 pm to EarlyCuyler3
quote:this
There's not a single religious thing about AA. I'm not religious and I don't have to rely of medication. Sounds like the best of both to me.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:12 pm to Centinel
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The majority of people on it are on it temporarily, and are then able to resume drinking at normal levels afterwords.
Does not compute. What is the point of drinking if not to get drunk? What is "normal" anyway? There's no way to define that. Normal to me was drink until I cant drink anymore. Sounds nice in theory, but I'm not buying it.
Great if it works for you. I have zero doubt it wouldn't work for me.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:13 pm to Centinel
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people on it are on it temporarily, and are then able to resume drinking at normal levels afterwords.
How does this happen? What is the catalyst for this functional persistence of a corrective nature?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:13 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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There's not a single religious thing about AA.
What? This is one their twelve steps:
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Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:15 pm to Centinel
quote:I didn’t read the article but is it claiming there are some cases where they trialed skid row drunks on naltrexone for a few months and after they are able to return to drinking like a “normal” person?
The majority of people on it are on it temporarily, and are then able to resume drinking at normal levels afterwords.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:16 pm to whit
In fact, I still pretty well cringe when the idea of church comes up. 
There are lots of religious people in AA for sure. And some of them will get out of line and start preaching to an extent. I've learned just to tolerate it and ignore it over the years. It's not that big of a deal anymore. They can believe what they want and I can believe what I want and still stay sober.
There are lots of religious people in AA for sure. And some of them will get out of line and start preaching to an extent. I've learned just to tolerate it and ignore it over the years. It's not that big of a deal anymore. They can believe what they want and I can believe what I want and still stay sober.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:16 pm to theronswanson
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What? This is one their twelve steps:
He means it doesn't correspond to a specific religion. It's spiritual.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:17 pm to theronswanson
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What? This is one their twelve steps:
So what religion is A.A. then?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:18 pm to theronswanson
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What? This is one their twelve steps:
Yeah, the key part is as we understand him. That means I can think God is a damn doorknob if I want. I used my dogs for a bit if I remember correctly. Now I dont even think about it or worry about. Something other than me is running the big show and I just have to do my part. My God likes death metal and headbangs to Behemoth songs with me.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:41 pm to AndyWoods
I haven’t had one in over 20 years. I was forced to go to AA and man, is that place depressing. They got one thing right, you have to change the people you run with and the places you hang out.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:45 pm to AndyWoods
Keep it up. Day to day small victories.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:48 pm to GoT1de
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Watched 3 friends die before age 51 2 cirrhosis, 1 liver cancer
Best friend died of chirrhosis. Its awful
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:58 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
quote:One of the most bittersweet posts I’ve ever read here.
The best 2 years of my childhood was the 2 years my father gave up alcohol. Good luck to you
I’m glad I don’t have a problem with chemical dependency or with mental illness*.
*Not inferring that your pops did. I have no knowledge of his state.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:04 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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They got one thing right, you have to change the people you run with and the places you hang out.
This is the toughest thing for me. All of my friends drink. "I drink because I'm lonesome but then I'm lonesome when I drink" lol
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:08 pm to AndyWoods
You are not drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:24 pm to celltech1981
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This is the toughest thing for me. All of my friends drink. "I drink because I'm lonesome but then I'm lonesome when I drink" lol
Most of my high school/college friends still drink. I've been to some concerts with them and it's both amusing and annoying when they get drunk. You start to realize just how goddamn annoying drunk people are.
I had a legitimate reason to be there though. I can go anywhere provided I'm not trying to lie to myself and the truth is that I really want to be around alcohol. I've made plenty of new friends. A lot of them are in AA. As a man, it's hard to make and keep adult friendships anyway. It can get lonely at times, but frick, I was lonely as shite when I was drinking and getting high too. So the alcohol isnt really part of the equation when it comes to loneliness
Trust me, I'm dealing with the loneliness again now. But it's not worth drinking over.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 1:33 pm to whit
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So what religion is A.A. then?
That wasn't what the statement was.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 2:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Man screw 4 locos.
Eta. Granted I don’t know what four loco is
Can make a night go south real quick
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