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re: Help bring a city-wide fiber internet network to Baton Rouge
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:16 am to Count Chocula
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:16 am to Count Chocula
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We did it in Lafayette. Its not all that its cracked up to be...
This proposal isn't to have an LUS-type service, as I understand.. it's for the city to put down fiber all around Baton Rouge and lease their infrastructure to providers. That would be brilliant.
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Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:20 am to Count Chocula
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My personal opinion is that govt should never compete with private enterprise. Govt runs out of money, it endlessly raises your taxes. Private enterprise runs out of money, it goes out of business.
I agree with you 100% i don't think the government should be offering services.
This model is the opposite of what lafayette did. Lafayette competed in the private sector as an ISP. The Baton Rouge model would simply build out infrastructure that third party providers could lease out to offer services over. Baton Rouge would never offer services to residents or businesses.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:26 am to YouAre8Up
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Why does "everyone" need this? If they can't afford the prices of the higher speeds now then who's going to pay for that?
In Kansas City, google is paying for free internet for anyone in an impoverished neighborhood.
The amazing thing about the internet is it's a meritocracy. We're literally talking on a multi-million dollar message board that was started by two guys who just wanted to talk about their favorite football team. Now you and I are discussing our city's infrastructure on it. Having more people in our city with the ability to make those kinds of leaps is a good thing.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:28 am to BRTiger2005
For anyone interested, it appears this poster is spamming the board.
Read his thread on the Poli Board ( LINK ) and see SFP's article why this type of "public-private partnership" backfires and ends up costing local taxpayers big dollars.
I haven't read the thread here on the O-T so maybe this has been answered: who do you work for?
Read his thread on the Poli Board ( LINK ) and see SFP's article why this type of "public-private partnership" backfires and ends up costing local taxpayers big dollars.
I haven't read the thread here on the O-T so maybe this has been answered: who do you work for?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:30 am to icegator337
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quote:3) Who's going to pay for it? hopefully the city
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:30 am to BRTiger2005
A progressive thing happening in BR? Pigs will fly before something constructive like this will be agreed upon.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:31 am to BRTiger2005
The city of Tuscaloosa is doing something similar to this. They are starting on the West End and will expand it later. The city of Tuscaloosa does have an abundance of cash right now though.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:32 am to BRTiger2005
Wouldn't this undermine the important monopoly that Cox has worked so hard to create and protect? Are we really willing to throw that away just for cheaper and faster internet? Not in my Baton Rouge, not today mister!
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:35 am to BRTiger2005
Reason did a study on this very issue
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Because they assume broadband is an infrastructure business, they believe the model will follow the classic utility: high upfront construction costs, followed by high yield revenues that pay back the investment, while the installed plant can be routinely maintained as it depreciates on a long schedule. As with a classic utility, customer acquisition costs are believed to be low and incremental.
The shock comes when they learn, usually within two years of start-up, that technology cycles in broadband are short. Equipment can’t be “maintained” over a decade; it often has to be upgraded or replaced every two to three years. An even bigger shock comes when cities discover how much they must spend year-to-year to build and maintain viable market share. This is when municipalities realize that it’s not the speed of its Internet connections, but the quality, breadth and competitiveness of its cable TV service that drives revenues.
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For all the enthusiasm about municipal broadband, one fact remains: A great majority of systems fail. Those that survive end up falling short of their promised goals of lower prices, better service and ubiquity. One high-profile project after another—Ashland, Oregon; Provo, Utah; Tacoma, Washington—have leveraged their taxpayer funding, only to fall short of goals and end up facing a mountain of debt.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:37 am to LucasP
quote:You must know what the definition of "monopoly" is??
Wouldn't this undermine the important monopoly that Cox has worked so hard to create and protect?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:41 am to LSURussian
Russian did we discuss how this poster is almost certainly a plant?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:43 am to LSURussian
It's a board game, but also control of a commodity or service (per my Google search). If I wanted to find a more competitive rate for cable internet in Baton Rouge, I couldn't find a competitor against Cox. I guess this doesn't qualify?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:43 am to LSURussian
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This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:44 am to BRTiger2005
Needed this in this thread just in case nobody made it over to politalk
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ATT has ALREADY installed THEIR fiber in all Baton Rouge servitudes. They have been negotiating with the city government on approval to extend from servitudes to homes/businesses. The corrupt politicians have been delaying these negotiations. Now we see why. The only reason we don't have fiber yesterday is because corrupt politicians have been scheming to find a way to line their pockets.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I saw it in the Poli Board thread.
Russian did we discuss how this poster is almost certainly a plant?
He's gotta be someone who gets paid if this "plan" passes. Maybe the engineering consultant who would get the contract for developing the plan??
Have you RA'd? I haven't.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:45 am to BRTiger2005
My bad, I didn't realize posting on two relevant boards was frowned upon. Will have the admins delete one of the posts.
I work in the food service industry.
I work in the food service industry.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:45 am to BRTiger2005
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Will have the mods delete one of the posts.
this isn't reddit. They're called admins not mods
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:49 am to LucasP
quote:I have Cox but I can also use DirectTV, AT&T, Verizon, CenturyLink and a host of smaller ISP's if I want to.
If I wanted to find a more competitive rate for cable internet in Baton Rouge, I couldn't find a competitor against Cox.
Maybe those providers aren't in your area but they are in my area of Baton Rouge.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:52 am to LSURussian
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Maybe those providers aren't in your area but they are in my area of Baton Rouge.
What neighborhood do you live in?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 11:56 am to BRTiger2005
quote:South Baton Rouge not far from LSU. Not gonna get more specific than that.
What neighborhood do you live in?
What neighborhood do you live in?
And what do you gain if taxpayers pick up the tab for this project?
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