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Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8808 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:14 pm to
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Antibodies don't last...herd immunity is worthless.


Has this even been proven? Why would this virus act differently than every other virus throughout history? If antibodies don’t last forever then this will likely weaken once the population has had it and become another yearly virus around like the common flu strains we see. Any way this is analyzed the government has panicked and overreacted to the threat.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21473 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:15 pm to
“Just wear your mask and we’ll be back to normal in 3 weeks”—— OT
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71600 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:16 pm to
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You mean those people that can pass it onto to others


People with the virus you dumbass. That includes people who havent sneezed once but had to get tested. That's all the man said and it was correct.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13264 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:16 pm to
Thanks China!
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6521 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:16 pm to
Other Corona viruses have all mutated and eventually disappear. That is another way out. It will just take time, just like achieving herd immunity would.
I just hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Posted by setinways
Member since Apr 2020
68 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:18 pm to
I think it's reasonable to think that doctors won't ever really know how long they last in every single person. Even when antibodies wane to a level that's undetectable in the blood there is still evidence that something remains to somewhat fight it. The reason why this thing is so deadly is because it literally has not been in circulation (ever) and the human body has NEVER seen it. Give it a few years and the IFR will be equal or less to that of the flu.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46951 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:20 pm to
Right. That's the question the left won't answer. Should we collapse the nation in perpetual lockdown waiting for a vaccine that's not coming?

And if we did, what would we accomplish? Save 30k lives that were almost certainly doomed anyway? More will die next year in car accidents.

This virus isnt going anywhere. There is no other option but to reopen.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39148 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Now, they are saying that’s not long. So your herd immunity claim may not work
you actually believe this nonsense? I don’t believe anything these so called experts tell us they are wrong way more often than not
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:28 pm to
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cold can too.

I must have missed the part where the cold offed over half a million people in just a few months
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:31 pm to
Don’t worry, Russia is almost done with the vaccine
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39850 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:32 pm to
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Except those 100k+ dead people. That’s also a fact


The sad thing is you probably actually believe that. These numbers have been fudged (and politicized) since the beginning. There’s been nowhere close to 100K+ deaths because of the Chinese Flu.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13071 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:34 pm to
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The sad thing is you probably actually believe that. These numbers have been fudged (and politicized) since the beginning. There’s been nowhere close to 100K+ deaths because of the Chinese Flu.


Everything is a conspiracy.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

These numbers have been fudged (and politicized) since the beginning. There’s been nowhere close to 100K+ deaths because of the Chinese Flu.

Sure thing champ
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17392 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:34 pm to
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The sad thing is you probably actually believe that. These numbers have been fudged (and politicized) since the beginning. There’s been nowhere close to 100K+ deaths because of the Chinese Flu.

The sad thing is that you actually believe that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
77210 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:41 pm to
Now that Sweden has returned to the levels of their neighbors the death rate being elevated is the only sign that experts point to as their method being a failure. Sweden's new case rate has fallen off a cliff.

They point out Sweden's economy did not fair much better than surrounding Nordic countries, but fail to note that Sweden was the only country that had sanctions put on them by their surrounding countries.

When a second wave comes through there might be better data.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46951 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:56 pm to
He’s not wrong. 138k deaths of people WITH covid19, not OF covid19.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3307 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 5:59 pm to
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erd immunity is only as good as the length of the antibodies. Now, they are saying that’s not long. So your herd immunity claim may not work. Want to debate it? Show me the science on the antibodies and change my mind.


I will it’s called history, every pandemic, every epidemic, every viral disease breakout has met its demise by meeting the human immune system, it may take awhile but we are undefeated.
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3080 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:02 pm to
It’s amazing to me people still don’t get why we want to slow the virus down...

OP is right..we are slowing down reaching herd immunity...we are also keeping our hospitals from being over run...but, that might end up happening in some places. I’ll check back in with you then.
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3080 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Eisenhower knew what would happen on the D Day beaches. We went anyway because it was necessary. And those were young men with their whole lives ahead of them.


No, you’re asking for Grant at 2nd Cold Harbor.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33694 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Herd immunity is only as good as the length of the antibodies. Now, they are saying that’s not long. So your herd immunity claim may not work. Want to debate it? Show me the science on the antibodies and change my mind.

Do you not memory T cell bro?
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