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re: How do you feel about spanking children?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:55 pm to Phil A Sheo
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:55 pm to Phil A Sheo
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shows that there is an underlying issue you deal with personally on this matter..(That I doubt you'll share) that makes you debate it so vigorously
It this or the term paper theory.
oh and...
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:58 pm to Cdawg
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It this or the term paper theory. oh and...
.. I'm trying to draw out his motivation ...
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:59 pm to TheDoc
My daddy done whipped me just like his daddy did him, I sure as heck am gonna whoop up on my boy to make him turn out good Christiam men like us.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:00 pm to TheDoc
Sweet questionaire with subjective answers. It's not observing the behavior and gauging it accordingly. Would you like to link the one that states it can be attributed to 2 percent to 7 percent of mental disorders. A 5 percent variance in such a small percentage that's great studying on their part.
ETA: In the mental disorder study they refer to it as harsh physical punishment not just spanking.
ETA: In the mental disorder study they refer to it as harsh physical punishment not just spanking.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:18 pm to Rickety Cricket
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My daddy done whipped me just like his daddy did him, I sure as heck am gonna whoop up on my boy to make him turn out good Christiam men like us.
Another solid contribution to tigerdroppings Rickety. Good job
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:19 pm to LSUballs
Is doc still using hyperbole and generalizations to back his intellectually superior argument?
ETA: yep
ETA: yep
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:20 pm to TheDoc
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Should be illegal. For real.
Agreed. But the low hanging lazy fruit will never agree.
Maybe you should educate yourself on the effects of such a ban.
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A key focus of the work of Jason M. Fuller of the University of Akron Law School was Sweden, which 30 years ago became the first nation to impose a complete ban on physical discipline and is in many respects “an ideal laboratory to study spanking bans,” according to Fuller.
“Swedish teen violence skyrocketed in the early 1990s, when children that had grown up entirely under the spanking ban first became teenagers,” Fuller noted. “Preadolescents and teenagers under fifteen started becoming even more violent toward their peers. By 1994, the number of youth criminal assaults had increased by six times the 1984 rate.”
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:28 pm to WDE24
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WDE24
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salmon
:cheers: :cheers: Very nice job in this thread defending responsible parenting.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:28 pm to TheDoc
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crease the risk for child aggressive behavior.
What exactly does this mean.. Do we really want completely passive children with no aggressiveness?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:38 pm to TheDoc
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WHERE WE STAND
The American Academy of Pediatrics strongly opposes striking a child. If the spanking is spontaneous, parents should later explain calmly why they did it, the specific behavior that provoked it, and how angry they felt. They might apologize to their child for their loss of control, because that usually helps the youngster understand and accept the spanking.
WDE, Salmon, and several others have already conceded that they agree with this. They are not trying to justify "snapping on your children."
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:41 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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WDE, Salmon, and several others have already conceded that they agree with this. They are not trying to justify "snapping on your children."
No use in trying to talk sense into him.. He's on a one-way crusade
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:48 pm to TheDoc
Discomfort is inherent in discipline.
What I don't understand is the assumption by these bleeding-heart anti-spanking absolutists that emotional/mental discomfort is perfectly fine but physical discomfort is very very bad.
What I don't understand is the assumption by these bleeding-heart anti-spanking absolutists that emotional/mental discomfort is perfectly fine but physical discomfort is very very bad.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:52 pm to Phil A Sheo
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Darth he's having a serious struggle with some personal issue.. It is honestly useless
Gotcha. The thing with spanking is that it can be an effective disciplinary tool for a parent. But it has to be done right and the parent has to recognize when it's time to use it and when it's time to not use it.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:53 pm to TheDoc
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It teaches a child that the bigger person is in control and that their worth and value is not in their own hands.
What does it teach them when you take their toys away, send them to their rooms, or make them stand in a corner???
I'll answer this for you. It teaches them that you are bigger than them and your are in control.
Inherently, the effect is the same as spanking.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:55 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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What I don't understand is the assumption by these bleeding-heart anti-spanking absolutists that emotional/mental discomfort is perfectly fine but physical discomfort is very very bad.
Well a lot of educated doctors disagree with y'all about spanking.
But what do they know? With their studies and statistics.
Those kooky doctors!
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:56 pm to Darth_Vader
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Gotcha. The thing with spanking is that it can be an effective disciplinary tool for a parent. But it has to be done right and the parent has to recognize when it's time to use it and when it's time to not use it.
Absolutely...
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:57 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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What does it teach them when you take their toys away, send them to their rooms, or make them stand in a corner???
I'll answer this for you. It teaches them that you are bigger than them and your are in control.
Discipline should never involve degradation, emotional embarrassment, or physical abuse. Especially from an open hand or a belt or paddle.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:58 pm to TheDoc
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Well a lot of educated doctors disagree with y'all about spanking.
But what do they know? With their studies and statistics.
No offense but being a good doctor does not equal being a good parent.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:58 pm to TheDoc
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Well a lot of educated doctors disagree with y'all about spanking.
But what do they know? With their studies and statistics.
Those kooky doctors!
to quote a smarter than myself
"Those studies are bullshite."
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:59 pm to TheDoc
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Discipline should never involve degradation, emotional embarrassment, or physical abuse. Especially from an open hand or a belt or paddle.
I agree 100%
But like I said, if done properly,a spanking does not fit that definition.
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