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Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:11 pm to
I never get financing through a dealership, frick all that. I use a credit union at 1.8 or 1.9%. Just easier.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13000 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

if a new Tahoe has a price of $58,170 on the chevy internet site, how much would be a good price to pay for it?


I wouldn’t pay over $52-$53k. That’s just reality.

You’re not getting more than 10% generally without either an over inflated sticker (Ford) or just junk (Dodge).
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
991 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

0% ford applies to XLT models only. Like I said


From what I can tell this is not true

LINK

Click the "see trims" link under each offer

I see Lariat, King Ranch, etc.

Also you can get 0% and negotiate down the price.

Everything in life is negotiable
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16179 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

You just have to push and be willing to walk away.


Yep. I told Honda I want $2k off the sticker price and 0% financing. I said if I couldn't get that, I am not buying. I don't need a new car & its debt that bad.

It unnecessarily took 6 hours of them offering incremental drops in price until I drove off the lot in a new Honda at the price & financing I initially tabled.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47462 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:48 pm to
I love buying cars. Its the one environment you can act like a complete asshat and nobody cares.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88772 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

You’re not getting more than 10% generally without either an over inflated sticker (Ford) or just junk (Dodge).
You brand loyalists crack me up. You can pick up Gm trucks for 20% off sticker pretty much any day of the year.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29102 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 1:52 pm to
Only if you borrow through the dealership. If using your own financing, then paying “cash” means nothing.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10673 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:03 pm to
Got my 17' Sonata after 18s came out new for 18k tax tag and extended warranty.

They pulled shady shite to get me to finance through hyundai at 5.9%

I paid my credit union $100 to refi 3 days later at 1.9%.

Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7832 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:07 pm to
Oh yeah. And frick the finance manager with his special extended warranty that he is only gonna offer you. That shite has been played out
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

I've never financed a car through the dealership. My credit union has always given me the best rates. Maybe I could get a dealership to best the credit union's rates, but I prefer to deal with the dealership as little as possible.


You're leaving $$$ on the table. Use your credit Union to get a pre-approved loan with 60 days to use. Use the dealer financing to get the best price. You don't care what the interest rate is. Use your CU loan to pay off dealer financing at first payment. I have done this with Ford (F150s) the last 3 times at the same dealership. There is usually $1000-$1500 on the table for using dealer financing.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Got my 17' Sonata after 18s came out new for 18k tax tag and extended warranty. They pulled shady shite to get me to finance through hyundai at 5.9% I paid my credit union $100 to refi 3 days later at 1.9%.


NFCU will pay YOU to do this. $200 right now but varies throughout the year.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10922 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:25 pm to
Yeah patience pays off and having multiple dealerships near you too. I’ll work one via email that is kinda out of my way and I don’t really plan on going to. I’ll get them down to a price I feel is close but the best offer. Then I’ll go in person so a different one with the intent to walk away using the emails as leverage to get a better deal. After a few days they’ll keep bugging you to come back in. Then I’ll go to my dealership of choice and use all the info I have to get them to agree to my ideal price. I’ve done it 3 times and sometimes it’s taken a month but never been in a hurry and always walked away happy with what I paid.

Now is the time of you feel secure in your employment. Dealerships are hurting.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Me too.

It all very much depends on what you like spending money on.

I do not particularly enjoy driving. It just gets me where I need to go.
I do not care about the majority of pricey bells and whistles.
I do not need the newest model of vehicle.
I do not care about top end speed or acceleration.
I do not have any interest in car design.

Thus, for me, cars can be a tremendous waste of money.

My current vehicle is certified used. I've had it for 7 years. It still runs beautifully, and thanks to how well-built cars are these days I can easily drive this thing for another 5-10 years.

If you purchase cars in this manner, you can sock away far more money for things that matter - like early retirement .



This is me, bought my last suv certified used 3 years old with 48k, it’s 10 years old now and I’ve added about another 100k miles but it’s paid for.... can probably get another 5 years. Haven’t needed anything except new tires. I have no problem going another 5 years, that car note money goes towards savings, vacations, anything else I want to spend several hundred a month on
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27673 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

You're leaving $$$ on the table. Use your credit Union to get a pre-approved loan with 60 days to use. Use the dealer financing to get the best price. You don't care what the interest rate is. Use your CU loan to pay off dealer financing at first payment. I have done this with Ford (F150s) the last 3 times at the same dealership. There is usually $1000-$1500 on the table for using dealer financing.



This isn't a bad idea. I'd just rather kick my shin into a trailer hitch as hard as I can than deal with dealerships anymore than I have to

I'll be buying a new car in 2021, so I might use this tactic.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:34 pm to
This. I just picked up a Mazda 6 on 3/30 and got an amazing deal on it. I did all negotiations via email and played the different dealerships off of each other. Finally I got them all to within $100 on price, so whoever would give me most for my trade would earn my business. Ended up with a very good offer on my trade in.

I was in and out of dealership within 30 minutes. Most pleasant buying experience ever. Hope most dealers will stick to the email/text method. No one wants to sit at a dealership all day playing their stupid game to buy a car
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
137954 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:38 pm to
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You brand loyalists crack me up. You can pick up Gm trucks for 20% off sticker pretty much any day of the year.



This virus must have struck me hard, but you are right. 20% is a beginning negotiation point, not an ending one.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:57 pm to
lol - worse credit = higher interest rate = more they may be willing to take off the top. I learned this buying a car with a newly formed business. The business had no credit history, which opened up a whole new level for negotiating bottom line price. Went through it all and then paid cash.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6430 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by tiger626
NoLa
Member since Dec 2014
599 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
$44,500
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

This isn't a bad idea. I'd just rather kick my shin into a trailer hitch as hard as I can than deal with dealerships anymore than I have to


I make a game of it and act like they're doing me a huge favor. Its amazing what they'll throw into the deal if they think you're happy to get their 6.9%+ dealer financing. I always ask for free oil changes, etc... and they almost fall over backwards to sweeten the deal because they're counting on that interest rate to offset anything of real value they throw in.

One thing to always ask, though, is if there is a pre-payment penalty for early payoff? I've never encountered one and, if they ask why, I just tell them I'm curious in case I hit the lotto or something. :)
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