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re: I honestly thought this was a fake statistic, but it isn’t. Tokyo budget vs NYC budget
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:48 pm to NimbleCat
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:48 pm to NimbleCat
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Homogeneous
That’s the word. Want to know which countries are homogeneous. Look up rank safest countries.
The top 5 are homogeneous. The second 5 have very small percentages of diverse race.
When people in a society think similarly, believe similarly. Statistics show these societies to prosper and be safe places to live.
Diversity is Bull, sold by leftest to create chaos.
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Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:50 pm to DCtiger1
How do we across the country STOP paying money to NYC.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
A NYC cop with something like 15 years on the job can earn 250 plus and even more after overtime. I bet Tokyo cops dont have that.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:01 am to Zappas Stache
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It's also a fairly oppressive society
Care to explain?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:07 am to WhiskeyThief
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How do we across the country STOP paying money to NYC.
The wealthiest city in the country is likely a net exporter of tax dollars when put against the US.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 6:10 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:09 am to fightin tigers
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The wealthiest city in the country is likely a net exporter of tax dollars when out against the US.
More facts.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:11 am to NimbleCat
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Homogeneous There’s your word.
I’ll add a few: intelligence and hard work.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
How 'bout "highly political"? The cost of living in New York is nearly twice the cost of living in Tokyo, so the numbers in this chart correlate. I also assume that NYC government isn't "the most efficient" but these numbers don't by themselves tell us that.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:27 am to Scruffy
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Sure, therefore, we should should have systems on par or exceeding those in Japan, right?
As I said earlier in more detail, you're conflating culture and government.
Their culture is why they have the positives referenced ITT and why they have the issues I pointed out (there are even more I just picked the easiest one to establish objectively).
Our cultures why we have the negatives referenced ITT and why we have the positives I pointed out.
And our institutions are being given a bit of a false presentation. For example our schools and medical treatment surpass Japans, even with our large underclass dragging down the averages.
With a free society focused on individualism ( over collectivism and conformity), we are going to have a lot more polarity of outcomes/cultural examples. It's the cost of freedom
There is this myopic view that's come around in America the past decade that only looks to the negatives. I imagine it's a combination of economic malaise and the social conservative backlash due to the cultural left getting too many cycles in a row and pushing too far, leading to a more amplified version of the socially conservative response....and things for another board.
I got it during the post Covid spike when pathologies were increasing and we didn't know how long that would be, but that's been over since mid-2023 or so and lots of those pathologies started dropping to levels better than 2019 (we had been in a lull of the decrease a since about 2014, after 2+ decades of major decline from the hellscape that was the mid-70s to mid-90s).
I don't understand it now. It's becoming it's own pathology.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:29 am to Eurocat
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A NYC cop with something like 15 years on the job can earn 250 plus and even more after overtime. I bet Tokyo cops dont have that.
People in Japan don't make shite compared to American counterparts.
You can watch YT videos of expats (typically weebs) and the culture shock. The low salaries and the fax machines throw people off a good bit.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:36 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Leaches and Uniparty grift.
There is your difference.
There is your difference.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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Hell, Toyota and Honda are even having trouble making reliable cars these days.
How much of that is because they're making them here with US workers?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Remove culture from the equation.
As I said earlier in more detail, you're conflating culture and government.
With the amount of taxes obtained in the USA, we should have services and infrastructure on par with that of similar countries, yet that isn’t the case.
That is a hill I will die on.
quote:Schools? Are you referencing our universities?
For example our schools and medical treatment surpass Japans, even with our large underclass dragging down the averages.
Otherwise, Japan, and many other countries, outpace the USA on every education ranking system that exists.
I will give you major universities, but I don’t believe that gap is as wide as you believe.
As for medical care, again, the extremes may be better here, but the “general medical care” is not.
Medical care is hard to quantify though. It is impossible to remove “culture” from that, which plays a major factor in the country’s long lifespan.
quote:I care little for that.
With a free society focused on individualism ( over collectivism and conformity), we are going to have a lot more polarity of outcomes/cultural examples. It's the cost of freedom
The only aspect of the discussion that I care about is that we pay exorbitant taxes with a return far less than it should be.
We should have infrastructure on par with, if not better than, Japan.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:58 am to Flats
It's more the design for environmental regs (not just from the US) forcing them to become more German and over-complicate engines (like using turbos to decrease cylinders) But I imagine in time they'll figure it out, but the increase in complexity/parts is going to lead to less reliability because of the addition of more things that can break.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Homogenous
I can’t think of another word.
high-trust
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:03 am to JasonDBlaha
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East Asian countries know how to keep their cities meticulously clean. How they do it is beyond me.
They probably don't have to do much at all. The people themselves have it ingrained in their DNA to not litter the places they live. Of course, that doesn't apply to everyone but the majority of it is cultural.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:09 am to JasonDBlaha
quote:Japan has nearly zero public trashcans.
East Asian countries know how to keep their cities meticulously clean. How they do it is beyond me.
After the bombing in the 90s (I think it was the 90s), they removed all trash cans from the subways and streets since that was where the bombs were placed.
Somehow, the cities remained clean.
Everyone carries their trash home with them.
Could you imagine if they did that in the USA?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:11 am to Scruffy
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Remove culture from the equation.
That's like asking to remove numbers from a conversation about math.
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With the amount of taxes obtained in the USA, we should have services and infrastructure on par with that of similar countries, yet that isn’t the case.
Most of our taxes don't go to this, though. And you're cherry picking certain pieces of infrastructure.
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Schools? Are you referencing our universities?
Otherwise, Japan, and many other countries, outpace the USA on every education ranking system that exists.
All of them. Again, the underclass drags our average down, which is what those rankings are based on. So yeah those are clearly worse (even compared to the schools located in places of lower Japanese culture). This is also a cultural issue more than an institutional one.
And our universities blow every other country's out of the water in total.
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Medical care is hard to quantify though. It is impossible to remove “culture” from that, which plays a major factor in the country’s long lifespan.
Medical care and long lifespans are two separate things, and lifespan is specifically tied to culture. Medical care is not.
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I care little for that.
Because you intentionally don't want to give any credit for the positive pole in the distribution.
That's a specific example of the myopic view I referenced.
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The only aspect of the discussion that I care about is that we pay exorbitant taxes with a return far less than it should be.
We should have infrastructure on par with, if not better than, Japan.
The big ticket items don't have anything to do with infrastructure. Medicare and Medicaid alone
Our federal discretionary is only $1.8T about half of that is military spending. Medicaid and Medicare are almost as much as the entire discretionary budget.
In every state, Medicaid is the largest taxable service, I imagine being about half the budget if not more pretty routinely.
I benefit literally 0 from Medicare and Medicaid, directly or indirectly, FWIW. We could eliminate both and save a lot of money and it wouldn't affect my life one bit.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:16 am to southpawcock
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They probably don't have to do much at all. The people themselves have it ingrained in their DNA to not litter the places they live. Of course, that doesn't apply to everyone but the majority of it is cultural.
Correct
Posted on 2/23/26 at 7:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I am aware.
Most of our taxes don't go to this, though.
quote:Then pick any “piece of infrastructure” you wish.
And you're cherry picking certain pieces of infrastructure.
quote:I agree that culture plays a large factor here.
All of them. Again, the underclass drags our average down, which is what those rankings are based on. So yeah those are clearly worse (even compared to the schools located in places of lower Japanese culture). This is also a cultural issue more than an institutional one.
quote:Ah, good, so we have a category that is separate from culture that can be ranked.
Medical care and long lifespans are two separate things, and lifespan is specifically tied to culture. Medical care is not.
Where does each country rank?
quote:I simply reject the idea that the only way you can discuss the OP is if you consider culture.
Because you intentionally don't want to give any credit for the positive pole in the distribution.
quote:Japan has universal health coverage.
In every state, Medicaid is the largest taxable service, I imagine being about half the budget if not more pretty routinely.
What exactly are you arguing for or against here?
Yes, the USA does many things better than Japan.
We also perform many simple functions substantially worse than Japan.
Many of these basic governmental functions should be on par or better, based on the amount of taxes the USA brings in at all levels.
I would live in the USA over Japan for many reasons, but I would love for our government to emulate many aspects of Japan.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 7:30 am
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