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re: Is Childhood Hunger in America Really A Problem?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:22 pm to blackinthesaddle
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:22 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:Well we’re discussing the intentional misrepresentation of the problem. The underlying causes are many, but that wasn’t the purpose of this discussion.
How about you learn about the problem
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yeah, they were. How did that make me less hungry as a child?
I'm failing how you're not arguing that the child should be punished for the actions of the parent.
I'm failing how you're not arguing that the child should be punished for the actions of the parent.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:23 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:You have been given AMPLE DATA in this thread, yet you choose to emotionally attack people.
How about you learn about the problem instead of depending on your political biases to precariously hold up your crappy opinion on the matter?
The plural of anecdote is not data.
There is absolutely zero data that exists that shows a statistically significant amount of children in America do not get enough to eat. Period. End of disucssion.
You go to inner city nola or rural Alabama and you do not see rib cages, you see BELLIES
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:24 pm to Pecker
You may be. But others are arguing that childhood hunger doesn't exist in America.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:25 pm to blackinthesaddle
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Bunch of privileged a-holes in this thread arguing that children should go hungry because they have crappy parents.
I don't think anyone is arguing that children should go hungry.
I think the issue is many times parents aren't taking full advantage of the available resources, or using them properly. Too often money that could be used towards food is used towards non-essentials.
Obviously this isn't the case all the time. I feel like often times its the children of the very low middle class that suffer. The family doesn't qualify for assistance so people don't realize the struggle. It's just too often we see people who qualify abusing the system or like others said using their resources for things other than food for the table because they are shite parents.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That's the most ignorant measure of health that I've seen today. Hunger and starvation are two different things.
I've read the thread, there is very little in the way of DATA, just a bunch of opinion.
I've read the thread, there is very little in the way of DATA, just a bunch of opinion.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There is absolutely zero data that exists that shows a statistically significant amount of children in America do not get enough to eat. Period. End of disucssion.
Much less starving.
Yet people will say, "We send all this aid to Israel and don't feed our starving children in the U.S.!!!!"
It's a sentence that people blurt out to try to make themselves look so caring, when in reality, they simply are ignorant to the fact that kids don't starve in the U.S. They don't. Don't believe anyone that tells you they do.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:28 pm to blackinthesaddle
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Bunch of privileged a-holes in this thread arguing that children should go hungry because they have crappy parents.
I’m not privileged, my parents worked for a living
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:29 pm to HoustonChick86
I agree with all this and I think that's what the others in this thread meant (with the exception of a few extremists).
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:30 pm to el Gaucho
Dude, there is inherent privilege in even that statement. Some people's parents are dead, or crippled, or mentally retarded. I'm glad your parents were able to provide for you.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:32 pm to blackinthesaddle
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Dude, there is inherent privilege in even that statement. Some people's parents are dead, or crippled, or mentally retarded. I'm glad your parents were able to provide for you.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:33 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:it’s not 1 in 5 or 1 in 6. It’s a problem affecting approximately 0.2% of children in America. Special interest groups have intentionally misrepresented the numbers and claim that 1 in 6 children are affected. Which has led to even more government dependency. Which ironically leads to more child hunger.
You may be. But others are arguing that childhood hunger doesn't exist in America.
What’s your solution?
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:37 pm to Pecker
quote:
it’s not 1 in 5 or 1 in 6. It’s a problem affecting approximately 0.2% of children in America. Special interest groups have intentionally misrepresented the numbers and claim that 1 in 6 children are affected. Which has led to even more government dependency. Which ironically leads to more child hunger.
Wwith the resources in the country the number could be ZERO, blame the parents or the family. 1 in 5, seems like more fitting in Somalia,
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:38 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:That’s a disingenuous argument on your part. We both know that those instances are outliers and make up a statistically small number of parents who neglect their children.
Dude, there is inherent privilege in even that statement. Some people's parents are dead, or crippled, or mentally retarded. I'm glad your parents were able to provide for you.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:40 pm to Pecker
First, public schools should provide breakfast and lunch to all students. Since schools are effectively holding pens for children while their parent's work from 8 to 5.
Secondly, rescind the EBT system and return to the older system of centralized distribution centers (the old gubment cheese days). It's much harder to monetize a block of cheese or a bag of rice. I realize this is a non-starter in this current age of Wal-Mart and others making bank off the current system, but I'm going with my idealized solution.
Finally, school administrations should actually do more than police the student population and act as student welfare advocates, meaning if they see students struggling in a scholarly, impoverished, or social way, the school administrators should investigate the reasons and report to the appropriate organizations to get the student back on track.
Secondly, rescind the EBT system and return to the older system of centralized distribution centers (the old gubment cheese days). It's much harder to monetize a block of cheese or a bag of rice. I realize this is a non-starter in this current age of Wal-Mart and others making bank off the current system, but I'm going with my idealized solution.
Finally, school administrations should actually do more than police the student population and act as student welfare advocates, meaning if they see students struggling in a scholarly, impoverished, or social way, the school administrators should investigate the reasons and report to the appropriate organizations to get the student back on track.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:41 pm to blackinthesaddle
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I know adults with no children that skip meals to make it week to week on their paychecks
What life decisions brought them to this path in life?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:42 pm to Pecker
This was not an argument for or against childhood hunger, but a rebuttal to the posters insistence that he was not privileged.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:42 pm to Pecker
The parents being assholes is the bigger issue. There’s plenty of charity out there for parents who are struggling to put food on the table.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:43 pm to blackinthesaddle
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First, public schools should provide breakfast and lunch to all students. Since schools are effectively holding pens for children while their parent's work from 8 to 5.
Many do, who is going to pay the cost incurred?
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Secondly, rescind the EBT system and return to the older system of centralized distribution centers (the old gubment cheese days). It's much harder to monetize a block of cheese or a bag of rice. I realize this is a non-starter in this current age of Wal-Mart and others making bank off the current system, but I'm going with my idealized solution.
The SJW's would lose their collective shite, this would be akin to closing under performing HBCU's
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Finally, school administrations should actually do more than police the student population and act as student welfare advocates, meaning if they see students struggling in a scholarly, impoverished, or social way, the school administrators should investigate the reasons and report to the appropriate organizations to get the student back on track.
Try as you may imposing morals or responsibility will never work.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:44 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:
First, public schools should provide breakfast and lunch to all students. Since schools are effectively holding pens for children while their parent's work from 8 to 5.
Secondly, rescind the EBT system and return to the older system of centralized distribution centers (the old gubment cheese days). It's much harder to monetize a block of cheese or a bag of rice. I realize this is a non-starter in this current age of Wal-Mart and others making bank off the current system, but I'm going with my idealized solution.
Finally, school administrations should actually do more than police the student population and act as student welfare advocates, meaning if they see students struggling in a scholarly, impoverished, or social way, the school administrators should investigate the reasons and report to the appropriate organizations to get the student back on track.
None of these things address the root cause. Why is it the government’s job to feed every child in America breakfast and lunch? What you’re really suggesting is that it’s my job to feed your child breakfast and lunch. I don’t have children. So what do I get in return for feeding yours?
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