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Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:12 pm to Gaggle
quote:This is a good question. I hope anyone still debating you is doing it purely for time-wasting purposes at this point.
Are we going through them all again?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:12 pm to Gaggle
quote:
atmospheric distortion
Have you explained this convenience yet? At that point does the distortion become too much to see through?
Does it change daily?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:12 pm to Gaggle
quote:
No, atmospheric distortion, exactly what happens to the ships
the same atmospheric distortion that makes two observers see different stars and see the stars rotating in different directions depending on which hemisphere they are on?
It seems refraction can behave in all sorts of fun and arbitrary ways to contort observation to the flat earth beliefs. Science!
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:14 pm to Ross
Why don't the ships go down the curve?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:14 pm to Displaced
Do atmospheric conditions change? That's your question. Wow.
Yes. Yes they do.
It's not a convenience. It's an inconvenience for you. The ship doesn't go down the curve.
Yes. Yes they do.
It's not a convenience. It's an inconvenience for you. The ship doesn't go down the curve.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:15 pm to Displaced
quote:
Coul you see London from the top of the Freedom tower in NYC with a strong enough telescope
Terrible argument...even if you could see through that much atmosphere, London's tallest building would be 2 millimeters tall at 100 yards away...not observable
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:15 pm to Gaggle
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:19 pm to Gaggle
quote:What is the scale of your use case and precision required?
Does the vastness of earth provide a de facto flat plane?
quote:
The geometry doesn't work.
The geometry only works if the earth is round. Lots of things only work if the earth is round.
quote:As with the bowling ball and the marble, that depends on how close you are.
It should be noticeably curved within our optics and field of view.
quote:As it turns out, it is.
The horizon should be curved.
quote:Your "go down" and "same height" terminology doesn't make sense, no matter what shape you think the earth is.
It should definitely curve more and go down as you rise. Instead it remains at the same height and perfectly flat.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:20 pm to Ross
That atmospheric distortion is a bitch.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:20 pm to Ross
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:23 pm to Korkstand
quote:I know! Which is why it doesn't work!
The geometry only works if the earth is round. Lots of things only work if the earth is round.
quote:wtf. It's not
The horizon should be curved.
As it turns out, it is.
quote:Roundies invented the premise of ships disappearing over the horizon is them "going down" behind the curve. However you want to phrase it. That's their argument.
Your "go down" and "same height" terminology doesn't make sense, no matter what shape you think the earth is.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:25 pm to Gaggle
You posted another video of a boat sinking as it got too far away :(
RIP sailors
RIP sailors
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:25 pm to Gaggle
quote:No, no you can not.
You can zoom in and see the ship again.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:26 pm to Ross
You posted a response to a 10+ min video in 5 minutes
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:26 pm to AlxTgr
quote:Click the link
No, no you can not.
Get a camera and do it yourself
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:26 pm to Gaggle
you can't ask me to watch an entire video of a sinking ship, just think of the cries and wails of those poor sailors and the wives they left at home. The tragedy was too much.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:27 pm to Gaggle
quote:
The geometry only works if the earth is round. Lots of things only work if the earth is round.
I know! Which is why it doesn't work!
Checkmate mathematicians.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:28 pm to Ross
Of course not. You can't be asked to learn anything. You were taught round earth in kindergarten and you don't need no proof
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:29 pm to Ross
quote:I don't think I've seen a better example of the futility of debating these guys than this post and Gaggle's response. You post a clear, unedited video in which all of us can clearly observe a ship dropping below the horizon and he hand waves it.
I hope everyone survived. It looks like the ship must have sank :(
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