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re: Is the earth flat?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:30 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:30 pm to northshorebamaman
No I posted a 10 minute response video that explicitly proves it wrong early on. It makes ships reappear. And it explains and tracks in detail the height of the ship and distortion as I've been saying. Stop lying and watch the video.
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:31 pm to IceTiger
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re: Is the earth flat? Posted by IceTiger online on 4/12/22 at 2:15 pm to Displaced quote: Coul you see London from the top of the Freedom tower in NYC with a strong enough telescope
Terrible argument...even if you could see through that much atmosphere, London's tallest building would be 2 millimeters tall at 100 yards away...not observable
I’m gonna need someone to explain this thought process (the response) to me or point me to where this is explained in this thread because this doesn’t make sense to me.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:32 pm to Gaggle
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No I posted a 10 minute response video that explicitly proves it wrong early on. It makes ships reappear. And it explains and tracks in detail the height of the ship and distortion as I've been saying. Stop lying and watch the video.
I don't need to watch another video to watch his video. WTF.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:32 pm to Gaggle
Literally a boat going over the horizon 
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:34 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:do you need Betamax? I watched his video. The video ended and didn't tell the whole story. My video tells the whole story.
I don't need to watch another video to watch his video. WTF.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:35 pm to Fun Bunch
So what is the horizon then if you can zoom in and see ships past it?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:35 pm to Gaggle
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The video ended and didn't tell the whole story. My video tells the whole story.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:36 pm to northshorebamaman
You don't make any sense. Have you only ever watched one video? Why did you watch his if you had seen another one?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:37 pm to Gaggle
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I know! Which is why it doesn't work!
The simple geometry of the sun and day/night doesn't work on a flat earth. There is no way to reconcile the length of a day at various points on earth, and through the seasons, with a flat earth. As it happens, the geometry works perfectly with a spherical rotating earth.
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wtf. It's not
quote:Uh huh. You have posted numerous photos and videos of ships disappearing below the horizon. Why are you posting it and claiming it's not happening?
Roundies invented the premise of ships disappearing over the horizon is them "going down" behind the curve. However you want to phrase it. That's their argument.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:39 pm to Korkstand
quote:No I haven't. If they are going down a curve, they should slip out of view very quickly, they only have to cover the height of the ship. Yet they remain visible and slowly "disappear" from the bottom up above the water while the mast remains at the same height. Look with your own eyes and see
Uh huh. You have posted numerous photos and videos of ships disappearing below the horizon. Why are you posting it and claiming it's not happening?
Why don't they disappear almost instantly? How can they reappear well past the horizon?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:41 pm to Gaggle
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Why don't they disappear almost instantly?
Are you asking why only the highest point is visible before the entire thing disappears?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:43 pm to Displaced
quote:I'm saying if you're going fast down a curve you disappear quickly, the bottom clearly goes below the curve and your head dips below. You're past the curve now. I can't zoom in and see you again.
Are you asking why only the highest point is visible before the entire thing disappears?
That doesn't happen. The head stays at the same height and the bottom becomes a distorted image below it and it very slowly disappears from the bottom up while still above the water line the whole time. Then I can zoom in and see you again.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:43 pm to ERIMSEW
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[Can you define precisely why "Liberator is a loon"? (just for the record. Thanks.]
"You disregard empirical evidence and blatantly suspend reality to fit your narrative."
a) Thanks. At least you demonstrate sack enough to and answer the question honestly (even if "loon" and your "reality" -- like 'Truman' -- is only relative to a world presented to you since The Cradle.)
b) MY "Narrative"? Did it ever occur to you that the "Outer Space" dogma/canon you've accepted as "Truth/Reality" since early childhood *might* well be the *actual* "Narrative"?
c) If you can kindly follow up by citing just which claim of "empirical evidence" [Liberator] blatantly suspended reality," I fully accept your challenge.
Please present a Top 3 "Empirical Evidence" (or "proof" you believe is spun lies or vandalized will do.
For your part, you must actually examine the presented evidence fairly and refute it based on the "evidence" cited by your side of the original claim.
GROUND RULES:
NO Red Herrings. NO Strawman. NO Ad Hominem
IS a respectable exchange possible?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:46 pm to Liberator
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c) If you can kindly follow up by citing just which claim of "empirical evidence" [Liberator] blatantly suspended reality," I fully accept your challenge
You can't even present a map that makes any sort of sense
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:47 pm to northshorebamaman
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I don't think I've seen a better example of the futility of debating these guys than this post and Gaggle's response. You post a clear, unedited video in which all of us can clearly observe a ship dropping below the horizon and he hand waves it.
The issue is people pick dumb arguments against FEers...it gives them easy wins.
Refraction and atmosphere affect these observations long before the horizon matters.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:49 pm to Displaced
That's one question for you to answer while considering the entire series of posts and observing what you see. Stop cherry picking and pouncing, watch the videos and think about it.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:50 pm to Displaced
Have any of them explained tides yet?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:50 pm to Gaggle
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Stop cherry picking
This coming from you is the most laughable thing itt.
And it is most certainly not up to me to draw your map because you aren't able to.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:51 pm to Gaggle
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I'm saying if you're going fast down a curve you disappear quickly,
Look at the scale of the curve compared to the circumference of the earth. That’s why. Watching someone disappear around the curve with 1,000 meter radius at 10 mph is the equivalent of watching something go around the earth at 63,000 mph
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:52 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:266 feet of curve per 20 miles. It's not the scale you think. Do the geometry.
Look at the scale of the curve compared to the circumference of the earth.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 2:55 pm
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