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re: KickAss Torrent Site Seized
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:17 pm to Peazey
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:17 pm to Peazey
Read the controversy in this Wikipedia LINK on this great "legit " service. Artists pulling their music and claiming not getting paid. Not just nobody artists either. Neil Young, Taylor Swift, Black Keys member.
Maybe it isn't so different if the artist's claims are legit. They just agree to do it because their music will be pirated anyway. Lots of rappers release mix tapes for free. so not really pirating that genre. Rock has almost disappeared. Country has went to shite.
What's left to listen to?
Maybe it isn't so different if the artist's claims are legit. They just agree to do it because their music will be pirated anyway. Lots of rappers release mix tapes for free. so not really pirating that genre. Rock has almost disappeared. Country has went to shite.
What's left to listen to?
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:18 pm to Peazey
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Like was said, it isn't nearly worth the extra effort to torrent stuff when streaming is so convenient. Spotify is like $9 a month and anything that isn't there I can probably find on youtube. The key to the entertainment industry combating piracy was to come up with a model that made it the less convenient option, and they pretty much have. Actually possessing media has become an anachronism
Yep. They compromise on a model that pays them considerably less, but is better for the consumer and people think that is still too much and they are just entitled to get content for free. All while those users claim they aren't stealing.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:21 pm to LSU999
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Read the controversy in this Wikipedia LINK on this great "legit " service. Artists pulling their music and claiming not getting paid. Not just nobody artists either. Neil Young, Taylor Swift, Black Keys member.
That's not controversy. If an artist doesnt think they are being compensated fairly and wants to pull their music, then fine. I'll listen to the music on there from artists that are OK with it and have given their blessing to use that source.
The fact that there is nothing you like doesn't justify just taking it, and claiming you should have it free because it sucks. And I agree on the quality.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:22 pm to SG_Geaux
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God forbid you frickers actually PAY for something.
I've paid for TV for many years, and they double dip taking my time for ads as well. I've paid to see many movies at the theater, and they double dip if I want to watch it again later at home on disc. I've paid for Netflix for many years, they're cool. Same with Amazon.
How many more ways can this industry find to extract money for a little bit of entertainment?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:28 pm to LSU999
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Read the controversy in this Wikipedia LINK on this great "legit " service. Artists pulling their music and claiming not getting paid. Not just nobody artists either. Neil Young, Taylor Swift, Black Keys member.
Maybe it isn't so different if the artist's claims are legit. They just agree to do it because their music will be pirated anyway. Lots of rappers release mix tapes for free. so not really pirating that genre.
That has nothing to do with anything. The contracts that the artists negotiate is between them and the company. If they don't want to do it then they won't. If they lose too many of the artists that I like then I won't use it. That doesn't justify stealing, and it hasn't made the product something that I don't want to use. It's still more convenient for me than torrents. FYI I don't care at all about those artists you listed.
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Rock has almost disappeared. Country has went to shite.
Get off my lawn. Yada yada.
Unrelated but sort of a pet peeve of mine. Most art has always been mostly bad quality. The gems typically get revealed with time. It is just hard to see them in the moment. Things haven't gotten so much worse. You have just gotten older and more jaded.
Also, this still doesn't justify stealing content.
ETA: Either way I don't really care about the "stealing" or "copyright infringement." The point is that legit options are so convenient that I don't see why you wouldn't use them. Before in the transition in technology the copyright infringement was a lot more understandable because the entertainment industry was lagging behind. Now you almost have to go out of your way.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:31 pm to ULSU
quote:They aren't stealing. I know what you're saying, but please use the right terminology - copyright infringement.
All while those users claim they aren't stealing.
Stealing/theft means the owner was deprived of something, and that's clearly not the case.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:35 pm to Korkstand
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They aren't stealing. I know what you're saying, but please use the right terminology - copyright infringement
Ok, but I would say watching it illegally is copyright infringement, while downloading and keeping the content is stealing.
Either way, my point is the same.
ETA: based on the definition in Wikipedia, you are right. Copyright infringement.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:38 pm to LucasP
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Torrenting movies and music is no different than date rape.
This man stood up in front of all of us and said some bullshite
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:40 pm to ULSU
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Ok, but I would say watching it illegally is copyright infringement, while downloading and keeping the content is stealing.
What is the difference between streaming something whenever you want, or downloading it once to watch whenever you want? The only difference is how long the content is stored.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:41 pm to Korkstand
Sorry, I edited to correct myself already.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:42 pm to skullopener
Say, that reminds me...
How many Polacks does it take to run a torrent site?
Wait a minute, I told it wrong. Here, I'm startin' over. How come it takes three Polacks to run a torrent site?
How many Polacks does it take to run a torrent site?
Wait a minute, I told it wrong. Here, I'm startin' over. How come it takes three Polacks to run a torrent site?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:42 pm to skullopener
Torrents are weak. Usenet is really the way to go (I pay $6/mo). Best thing is traffic is SSL encrypted and it's not peer-to-peer, you go pretty much as fast as your internet will let you with little or no risk of being discovered.
If you are technical you can make the investment to buy a QNAP to store the media and install/setup web-based programs on the QNAP itself to manage all of your content. It automatically grabs stuff to download and sorts the media afterwards automatically. You can also do this on a home server if you have the spare hardware. There are tons of guides out there for setting up SABNZBD (downloader), Couchpotato (for movies), and Sonarr (for TV).
I made the up-front investment in a QNAP 3 years ago and haven't paid for a day of cable. I do admit I use my mother-in-law's directTV credentials for WatchESPN.
To everyone defending the cable companies and chastising the pirates of the interweb; the day they allow me to pay for exactly what channels/networks I want is the day I go back to cable. I refuse to fund networks that push whatever agendas they want to push while making money, hand over fist, from the general public.
If you are technical you can make the investment to buy a QNAP to store the media and install/setup web-based programs on the QNAP itself to manage all of your content. It automatically grabs stuff to download and sorts the media afterwards automatically. You can also do this on a home server if you have the spare hardware. There are tons of guides out there for setting up SABNZBD (downloader), Couchpotato (for movies), and Sonarr (for TV).
I made the up-front investment in a QNAP 3 years ago and haven't paid for a day of cable. I do admit I use my mother-in-law's directTV credentials for WatchESPN.
To everyone defending the cable companies and chastising the pirates of the interweb; the day they allow me to pay for exactly what channels/networks I want is the day I go back to cable. I refuse to fund networks that push whatever agendas they want to push while making money, hand over fist, from the general public.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:45 pm to ULSU
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based on the definition in Wikipedia, you are right. Copyright infringement.
The industry tries real hard to equate it with stealing. I'm not trying to say infringement isn't wrong, it's just not as severe as stealing something IMO.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:52 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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Why the hell would anyone download torrents these days? You can just stream them, duh.
Lots of other things besides movies/videos on torrent sites..
I've literally saved thousands of dollars because of torrents by the way
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:57 pm to saintsfan1977
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I dont have HBO. Torrenting GOT has me not missing a single episode plus I can rewatch them over and over. Its no different than when everyone was sharing cassettes and CDs.
You're stealing content.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:12 pm to WW
quote:ftfy
You're infringing copyrights.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:14 pm to bountyhunter
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To everyone defending the cable companies and chastising the pirates of the interweb; the day they allow me to pay for exactly what channels/networks I want is the day I go back to cable. I refuse to fund networks that push whatever agendas they want to push while making money, hand over fist, from the general public.
My point is that at this point, you can purchase exactly whatever content you want. There are services out there that allow this. There is still some fine tuning of it, especially with sports, but pretty much everything else is available a la carte. Your argument defending pirating is pretty close to being completely out of date and will soon finally be completely out of date.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:15 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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Why the hell would anyone download torrents these days? You can just stream them, duh.
The quality is usually terrible.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:26 pm to bountyhunter
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To everyone defending the cable companies and chastising the pirates of the interweb; the day they allow me to pay for exactly what channels/networks I want is the day I go back to cable. I refuse to fund networks that push whatever agendas they want to push while making money, hand over fist, from the general public.
Where do you think the money comes from to mke shows like Game of Thrones, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc?
Not from the $6 you pay to illegally obtain their content through some undetectable site. You don't like Cox? Fine, go pay $40/month for Playstation VUE. Something tells me you're not really on some crusade though, and really just want free content.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:27 pm to Peazey
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My point is that at this point, you can purchase exactly whatever content you want. There are services out there that allow this. There is still some fine tuning of it, especially with sports, but pretty much everything else is available a la carte. Your argument defending pirating is pretty close to being completely out of date and will soon finally be completely out of date.
Have you checked pricing on this? It's absurd. TV shows are priced so that people might fill in an occasional show here and there. They are priced to protect cable package pricing, not as an alternative to it. They generally run about $3 per hour of content, which is close to $300/month for the average viewer. And that's assuming everyone in the house watches the same shows. Meanwhile Netflix has set the bar at $10/month for unlimited viewing.
Something is wrong here.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 11:27 pm
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