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re: Let this be a psa to lock up your guns
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:21 am to LewDawg
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:21 am to LewDawg
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My kids know not to touch my guns. I don't keep them in places where they can easily reach them, but they wouldn't bother them anyway. Hell, my 4 year old knows better
Said literally EVERY parent of a child who killed themselves or someone else unintentionally.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:22 am to lsuhunt555
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My gun safety is simple, they require a key or my fingerprint to get to them.
Thank you. Smart man.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:22 am to LewDawg
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My kids know not to touch my guns. I don't keep them in places where they can easily reach them, but they wouldn't bother them anyway. Hell, my 4 year old knows better
Look, I'm a gun owner, have had my CCP, and believe in the right to use them for self defense. But, the whole "my kids know better" argument only works until they don't listen the one time. Kids do things they aren't supposed to. So although I'm definitely all for teaching gun safety and letting them know it's absolutely off limits. I think you have to do everything that you can to prevent them from getting access.
Like I said, I had my concealed carry license. I used to carry with one in the chamber, or it was in my vehicle console. Then I had a kid and made the personal decision that it was safer for my family in the grand scheme of things to keep my guns in our safe. I let my license expire since I'd rather never carry when there's a good chance I'll have a toddler crawling all over me. Again, that was a personal decision. I still keep my self defense pistol loaded. It's just in a safe about 7 steps away from our bed in the walk in closet.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:34 am to Tiger in NY
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That is fricking irresponsible.
He carried it on him you dipshit.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:39 am to Scooba
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He carried it on him you dipshit.
Even in the house? On the crapper? What if you had found his gun?
You don't know its loaded
You havent been taught how to handle it
You havent been told not to touch it
All because the parent thought hiding it was infallible. Stupid.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:40 am to Scooba
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home defense if you have to retrieve it from a safe and load it first.
Maybe if the family just taught the kids to respect guns and not play with them.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:43 am to Bmath
Still needs to be locked up. Too many options for safety and quick retrieval available these days not to.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:44 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Bet it was a Glock or other brand with NO safety.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:44 am to jmarto1
ESPECIALLY handguns.
Handguns are inherently far more dangerous than long arms. Your kids shouldn't be touching them under any circumstance unsupervised.
Handguns are inherently far more dangerous than long arms. Your kids shouldn't be touching them under any circumstance unsupervised.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:53 am to mpar98
And of course, according to the article, it's unclear who the gun belongs to.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:54 am to Scooba
I'm very pro-gun, but tell me which is more likely to happen.....your home is invaded and you have to quickly snatch the gun out of the night stand drawer to ward off the nefarious intruders......or your 5 year old stumbles upon it and shoots himself. And don't say they know better, because they're kids, and kids do dumb stuff even though they're taught not to.
If you have guns and kids, lock up the guns.
If you have guns and kids, lock up the guns.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:55 am to Tiger in NY
I'm not interested in burglaries, a handy gun would have no use in those other than to be one of the stolen items.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:02 am to Tiger in NY
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Even in the house? On the crapper?
Yes, it wore a thin spot in his back pocket. He carries a knife with the same frequency as a pocket knife. My dad wasn't careless, he didn't leave it out for me to find, which is exactly my point. I knew about guns, knew he had others in the safe. We went to the range several times growing up, taught me how to clean them. My dad is the reason I have a CCP.
I said I didn't know he had a CCW and carried it loaded everywhere we went. I didn't know where he hid it, or how he carried. I had no reason to look for it. Had I somehow found a reason to go into their room (Why would I), climb on top of his armoire and look inside of a bookcase that had no book, I may have found it; I'm sure he would've noticed though because the only time it was located there was when he was sleeping next to it.
You assume.
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You don't know its loaded You havent been taught how to handle it You havent been told not to touch it
And you know nothing.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:18 am to RedPants
Well said. It is hard to find numbers on justifiable shootings vs unintentional shootings, but the numbers are there for children. Between 265-295 children unintentionally fired a weapon resulting in an injury last year, killing 85 people. I believe 43 killed themselves and 42 killed someone else. Children ages 2-4 and 14-18 were most susceptible.
It should be about risk management, and a loaded handgun in the nightstand is more likely to be used to kill your kid than it is an intruder.
It should be about risk management, and a loaded handgun in the nightstand is more likely to be used to kill your kid than it is an intruder.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:25 am to slackster
The point I was getting to. You are much more likely to have someone, legitimately in the home, injured by a loaded gun than you are to use said gun to defend the home.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:31 am to Scooba
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You don't know its loaded You havent been taught how to handle it You havent been told not to touch it
And you know nothing.
If he had it hidden and you "never knew about it until HS", then you damn sure wouldn't have known if it was loaded had you found it one day. It takes all of 2 seconds for a kid to find a gun and shoot it.
I understand defending your dad, but my philosophy would be to let my family know about it before someone finds it.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:48 am to ReauxlTide222
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I don't understand how this happens.
Can't get around the fact that it points to negligence. I have young children who can't rack the slide yet, so I don't keep one in the chamber. I also keep it locked away and out of their reach. It will take me an extra 30-45 seconds or so to use it if needed, but so be it. If someone kicks down my front door while I'm watching TV, I'm probably toast. If I lived in a dicey area, I might do something differently, but my first priority is always to keep them from hurting themselves or someone else.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:03 am to ScubaTiger
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You are much more likely to have someone, legitimately in the home, injured by a loaded gun than you are to use said gun to defend the home.
Link?
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:05 am to mpar98
This is the reason i don't own a gun. I have kids in the house and this is my worst nightmare.
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