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re: Let this be a psa to lock up your guns

Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:21 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91500 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:21 am to
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My kids know not to touch my guns. I don't keep them in places where they can easily reach them, but they wouldn't bother them anyway. Hell, my 4 year old knows better


Said literally EVERY parent of a child who killed themselves or someone else unintentionally.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91500 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:22 am to
quote:

My gun safety is simple, they require a key or my fingerprint to get to them.




Thank you. Smart man.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:22 am to
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My kids know not to touch my guns. I don't keep them in places where they can easily reach them, but they wouldn't bother them anyway. Hell, my 4 year old knows better


Look, I'm a gun owner, have had my CCP, and believe in the right to use them for self defense. But, the whole "my kids know better" argument only works until they don't listen the one time. Kids do things they aren't supposed to. So although I'm definitely all for teaching gun safety and letting them know it's absolutely off limits. I think you have to do everything that you can to prevent them from getting access.

Like I said, I had my concealed carry license. I used to carry with one in the chamber, or it was in my vehicle console. Then I had a kid and made the personal decision that it was safer for my family in the grand scheme of things to keep my guns in our safe. I let my license expire since I'd rather never carry when there's a good chance I'll have a toddler crawling all over me. Again, that was a personal decision. I still keep my self defense pistol loaded. It's just in a safe about 7 steps away from our bed in the walk in closet.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20008 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:34 am to
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That is fricking irresponsible.


He carried it on him you dipshit.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31516 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:39 am to
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He carried it on him you dipshit.


Even in the house? On the crapper? What if you had found his gun?

You don't know its loaded
You havent been taught how to handle it
You havent been told not to touch it


All because the parent thought hiding it was infallible. Stupid.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18909 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:40 am to
quote:

home defense if you have to retrieve it from a safe and load it first.


Maybe if the family just taught the kids to respect guns and not play with them.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38409 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:43 am to
Still needs to be locked up. Too many options for safety and quick retrieval available these days not to.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86856 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:44 am to
Bet it was a Glock or other brand with NO safety.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71632 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:44 am to
ESPECIALLY handguns.

Handguns are inherently far more dangerous than long arms. Your kids shouldn't be touching them under any circumstance unsupervised.
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
3080 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:53 am to
And of course, according to the article, it's unclear who the gun belongs to.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5972 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:54 am to
I'm very pro-gun, but tell me which is more likely to happen.....your home is invaded and you have to quickly snatch the gun out of the night stand drawer to ward off the nefarious intruders......or your 5 year old stumbles upon it and shoots himself. And don't say they know better, because they're kids, and kids do dumb stuff even though they're taught not to.


If you have guns and kids, lock up the guns.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 8:55 am
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
4776 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:55 am to
I'm not interested in burglaries, a handy gun would have no use in those other than to be one of the stolen items.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86856 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20008 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Even in the house? On the crapper?


Yes, it wore a thin spot in his back pocket. He carries a knife with the same frequency as a pocket knife. My dad wasn't careless, he didn't leave it out for me to find, which is exactly my point. I knew about guns, knew he had others in the safe. We went to the range several times growing up, taught me how to clean them. My dad is the reason I have a CCP.

I said I didn't know he had a CCW and carried it loaded everywhere we went. I didn't know where he hid it, or how he carried. I had no reason to look for it. Had I somehow found a reason to go into their room (Why would I), climb on top of his armoire and look inside of a bookcase that had no book, I may have found it; I'm sure he would've noticed though because the only time it was located there was when he was sleeping next to it.

You assume.
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You don't know its loaded You havent been taught how to handle it You havent been told not to touch it

And you know nothing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91500 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:18 am to
Well said. It is hard to find numbers on justifiable shootings vs unintentional shootings, but the numbers are there for children. Between 265-295 children unintentionally fired a weapon resulting in an injury last year, killing 85 people. I believe 43 killed themselves and 42 killed someone else. Children ages 2-4 and 14-18 were most susceptible.

It should be about risk management, and a loaded handgun in the nightstand is more likely to be used to kill your kid than it is an intruder.
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
4776 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:25 am to
The point I was getting to. You are much more likely to have someone, legitimately in the home, injured by a loaded gun than you are to use said gun to defend the home.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31516 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:31 am to
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You don't know its loaded You havent been taught how to handle it You havent been told not to touch it


And you know nothing.


If he had it hidden and you "never knew about it until HS", then you damn sure wouldn't have known if it was loaded had you found it one day. It takes all of 2 seconds for a kid to find a gun and shoot it.

I understand defending your dad, but my philosophy would be to let my family know about it before someone finds it.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7897 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:48 am to
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I don't understand how this happens.


Can't get around the fact that it points to negligence. I have young children who can't rack the slide yet, so I don't keep one in the chamber. I also keep it locked away and out of their reach. It will take me an extra 30-45 seconds or so to use it if needed, but so be it. If someone kicks down my front door while I'm watching TV, I'm probably toast. If I lived in a dicey area, I might do something differently, but my first priority is always to keep them from hurting themselves or someone else.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17011 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

You are much more likely to have someone, legitimately in the home, injured by a loaded gun than you are to use said gun to defend the home.





Link?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15960 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:05 am to
This is the reason i don't own a gun. I have kids in the house and this is my worst nightmare.
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