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re: Louisiana installing 82 more EV charging stations
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:05 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:05 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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$12 million is being used to replace old school buses with more efficient diesel engines or propane or CNG engines.
The fine to Volkswagen makes sense but I don't see the link between that case and installing EV charging stations.
It would have to be under the premise that installing charging stations will encourage more people to buy EVs over a period of time.
While that may be the case, is it really worth $1.7 million? I'd rather our road infrastructure be expanded so people dont sit in traffic as long, thus emit less emissions overall.
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:07 pm to member12
I work for a Civil Engineering firm that has car dealership projects (all brands). All new and renovations are calling for EV chargers and to plan for conduits for additional EV chargers in the future. These are to be used by the mechanics during service and some are set aside for customers (you can visit the brand dealership for a charge on a road trip or while in town) .
Gas will be here awhile. Look at all of the shitty old cars on the road. You can’t tell poor folks to buy new electrical cars.
Gas will be here awhile. Look at all of the shitty old cars on the road. You can’t tell poor folks to buy new electrical cars.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:08 pm to member12
Good, I want a Taycan S. Provide the juice baby
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:08 pm to Commander Rabb
quote:Maybe not, but battery trailers are certainly a possibility.
If you run out gas in your car, someone can bring you a can of gas. Nobody can bring you a can of battery.
Also you can tow an EV for a while and it will charge itself. For every mile towed it gets enough charge to drive itself a few miles.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:11 pm to Korkstand
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Also you can tow an EV for a while and it will charge itself. For every mile towed it gets enough charge to drive itself a few miles.
So we burn a shitload of diesel in order for a towtruck to pull around a dead EV long enough so that it can make it to a charging station
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:13 pm to Korkstand
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Also you can tow an EV for a while and it will charge itself. For every mile towed it gets enough charge to drive itself a few miles.
No, we go back to horses.
You can't call for gas if you don't have phone service. You can't charge your EV if the machines broken or the power is out.
Horses. We even have a bunch of people who are experts at deworming them now.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:17 pm to BurningHeart
quote:That seems likely.
It would have to be under the premise that installing charging stations will encourage more people to buy EVs over a period of time.
quote:That money would buy you about a mile of asphalt, not sure what that would do.
While that may be the case, is it really worth $1.7 million? I'd rather our road infrastructure be expanded so people dont sit in traffic as long, thus emit less emissions overall.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:18 pm to BurningHeart
quote:On that rare occasion, yes that is a possibility. I'm not sure what you are suggesting to be the downside of that feature?
So we burn a shitload of diesel in order for a towtruck to pull around a dead EV long enough so that it can make it to a charging station
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:24 pm to Korkstand
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That money would buy you about a mile of asphalt, not sure what that would do.
It's either money spent for roads or for something else.
If it's not for roads, then the assumption has to mean that the state will reduce its emissions more by having those charging stations vs putting that money towards roads.
Adding more charging stations has 0 benefit until people start buying more EVs. Do we really think that people will buy an EV just because there is a charging station a few miles from their home? Not likely. People are more concerned with EV cost and being stranded in the middle of no where without a charging station.
82 charging stations at 30 minutes per charge is 273 EVs charged during the day that would normally have been charged at their homes. 0 benefit for the state or emissions.
We need more road capacity regardless if people use EVs or gasoline engines. But government doesnt think that critically.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:27 pm to member12
Baws come out the woodwork anytime EVs or renewables are mentioned. Easiest way to get a long thread.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:48 pm to BurningHeart
quote:Looks like a lot of these will be going at government facilities and universities. I absolutely believe charging stations would encourage more students to drive EVs, and state-owned EVs would be huge savings to taxpayers in fuel and maintenance costs.
Adding more charging stations has 0 benefit until people start buying more EVs. Do we really think that people will buy an EV just because there is a charging station a few miles from their home? Not likely.
quote:A legit concern.
People are more concerned with EV cost
quote:Not really a legit concern. If you regularly make long road trips through the middle of nowhere, then an EV would be a poor choice of vehicle at this time.
and being stranded in the middle of no where without a charging station.
quote:I don't follow your math. 30 minutes per charge gives 48 charges per station per day. 48 x 82 = 3,926 possible charges per day. Obviously they will not all be in use 24/7, but something in the 5-10% utilization range seems reasonable so somehow your math worked out.
82 charging stations at 30 minutes per charge is 273 EVs charged during the day that would normally have been charged at their homes. 0 benefit for the state or emissions.
Anyway, there are absolutely benefits to the state in reduced fuel use, university students, and to total emissions.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:51 pm to BurningHeart
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Adding more charging stations has 0 benefit until people start buying more EVs. Do we really think that people will buy an EV just because there is a charging station a few miles from their home? Not likely. People are more concerned with EV cost and being stranded in the middle of no where without a charging station.
Fwiw, EV purchases are outpacing even the boldest predictions. That is the reason you are seeing manufacturers shifting their focus so quickly.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:42 pm to fightin tigers
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That is the reason you are seeing manufacturers shifting their focus so quickly
To be fair, the biggest reason is because the people that own the manufacturers (wall st) have told them to move to EVs or the money stops. Sales growth is the icing on the cake.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 2:49 pm to member12
good idea. electric is the future.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:23 pm to CarRamrod
Department of Energy has found that 80% of charging occurs at home for ev
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:28 pm to Areddishfish
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The 50 EV owners in the state are pumped!
There are currently 1950 EVs registered in the state of Louisiana.. So you were 1900 off. But its not just for the people in the state who owns them, its for people driving through..
I would imagine that would be welcomed. People stop to charge their car so they will likely get out, spend some money while they wait for it to charge, etc. But yeah.. out of all the tax dollars that are wasted.. Lets complain about something that is actually beneficial.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:34 pm to OweO
Louisiana actively tries to stay 20 or more years behind
Posted on 8/23/21 at 3:40 pm to UpToPar
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Can the Tesla supercharger be used on a non-tesla vehicle?
Yes. Many cars are using proprietary charging cable connections so a "charging dongle" is necessary.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 5:24 pm to Korkstand
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Looks like a lot of these will be going at government facilities and universities. I absolutely believe charging stations would encourage more students to drive EVs, and state-owned EVs would be huge savings to taxpayers in fuel and maintenance costs.
I have to disagree. Students may want EVs, but the deciding factors doesnt include whether a charging station is available on campus. It's likely vehicle price and the availability of charging stations being onpar with gas stations.
And state owned charging stations isnt free. That's tax dollars to install and maintain them, and government does not do anything as nearly as efficiently as the private sector.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 6:06 pm to BurningHeart
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And state owned charging stations isnt free. That's tax dollars to install and maintain them, and government does not do anything as nearly as efficiently as the private sector.
Well tax dollars won't be used to install these and ongoing maintenance is pretty small so....
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