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re: Louisiana Open Water Petition
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:50 pm to Corkfather
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:50 pm to Corkfather
I was replying to your thread about me caring when there is no more marsh to block tidal surge, and I would possibly be in harms way.
Louisiana is one of the few, if not the only state that doesn't abide by the Public Trust Doctrine. Look it up, if you are not familiar with it.
A dozen years ago I spoke in the House Natural Resource Committee meetings at the Capitol. The politicians are definitely biased. If you doubt it, go talk to them , as I did a dozen years ago. I could name names and give examples, but it would be tldr. The ones who were sympathetic warned me that there was big money involved, and nothing could be done until judges began ruling differently in the trespassing cases. Oh, and CCA is not our friend on this.
There was an attorney for The Louisiana Landowners Association, named Newman Trowbridge from Lafayette, that virtually lived at the Capitol, just to fight anything vaguely resembling water access. He passed away a few years ago, but damn, he was relentless. I'm sure the new attorney is just as bad.
I've written articles for the Sportsman about this issue when it last came up pre Katrina. I was involved with some meetings the Louisiana Wildlife Federation set up as well.
I have come to realize that there is a groundswell of public sentiment that occurs regarding navigation and fishing rights periodically. I guess it's cycling up again.
I used to care about the marsh, but since all the gating and postings keep me out, I am less inclined to give a rats arse.
By the way, I'm sitting at 60 ft. Above sea level, so storm surge won't get me, and if the coast line ever makes it this far north, I'll fish from my back yard. (Just so you know, it won't be happening in my lifetime, or my kids).
Louisiana is one of the few, if not the only state that doesn't abide by the Public Trust Doctrine. Look it up, if you are not familiar with it.
A dozen years ago I spoke in the House Natural Resource Committee meetings at the Capitol. The politicians are definitely biased. If you doubt it, go talk to them , as I did a dozen years ago. I could name names and give examples, but it would be tldr. The ones who were sympathetic warned me that there was big money involved, and nothing could be done until judges began ruling differently in the trespassing cases. Oh, and CCA is not our friend on this.
There was an attorney for The Louisiana Landowners Association, named Newman Trowbridge from Lafayette, that virtually lived at the Capitol, just to fight anything vaguely resembling water access. He passed away a few years ago, but damn, he was relentless. I'm sure the new attorney is just as bad.
I've written articles for the Sportsman about this issue when it last came up pre Katrina. I was involved with some meetings the Louisiana Wildlife Federation set up as well.
I have come to realize that there is a groundswell of public sentiment that occurs regarding navigation and fishing rights periodically. I guess it's cycling up again.
I used to care about the marsh, but since all the gating and postings keep me out, I am less inclined to give a rats arse.
By the way, I'm sitting at 60 ft. Above sea level, so storm surge won't get me, and if the coast line ever makes it this far north, I'll fish from my back yard. (Just so you know, it won't be happening in my lifetime, or my kids).
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:51 pm to Corkfather
quote:and that's where we are right now. Discretion is being given to the land owners and not the tax paying public. Good on you for allowing someone to fish a circumstance like that. But , i can guarantee you that you're in the minority.
In my personal opinion, that's 100% fine, and I myself allow fishermen to access my land. However, if the landowner chooses to gate it and isn't blocking access to public land, then it is his right to do so.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:51 pm to Corkfather
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thats my point....im getting blasted for saying we should be able to block off dead end canals/one way in one way out canals...
I do not agree with this at all IF the water flowing into that deadend canal is from State owned waterway and if the canal is navigable then it should not be gated.
A dead end is not really a dead end to land 99% of the time but to marsh or swamp.
I agree the area not navigable should be able to be posted though..
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:51 pm to slackster
quote:but that's not where we are in Louisiana right now. It should be that way but it's not.
It is pretty straight forward - the moment a canal was dug to allow public water to flow into it, public boats should be allowed in as well. If you want them out, put the land back where it was and the water will leave too.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:52 pm to Corkfather
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Do you own the air above your house or can I just come and drop pilings around your house and build on top of you?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:52 pm to meauxjeaux2
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i fish duck ponds all the time from Lake Borgne to Fourchon. There's great redfishing those "duck ponds" during high tide. Those fish go in and out of there every day during tidal movements. This thread is about tidal waters.
I'll say it again, it's not about keeping people from fishing...it's about protecting my property.
Hell if I didnt have a camp on the lease, I wouldnt put up a gate
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:55 pm to tgrbaitn08
The red boundary you provided isn't at the mouth of the canal
So which is it? The mouth of a man made canal or the red Line?
So which is it? The mouth of a man made canal or the red Line?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:55 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I fish around deer bayou but I've never seen any gates...that I can remember
South of the marina a few miles on brady road we put in. Basically fished the marsh south of lake decade and just east of Mechant. I have never gone all the way up deer bayou to the gate from Mechant but have been told it is gated. Also not sure how well you know the area but we used to cut through to Mechant from bayou decade through little deuce which i think they leveed off now forcing us to go through racourcci to get to mechant.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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if the canal is 500 yards long why should the entire canal be gated?
If I dug it myself I should be able gate it doesnt matter how long it is
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:58 pm to tgrbaitn08
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If I dug it myself I should be able gate it doesnt matter how long it is
Here comes everyone saying that they own the water. People will just start drilling water wells and filling areas up themselves, and then people would say they own the water because it came from under the ground.
I don't understand why people think that water can't be privately owned.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:59 pm to Clyde Tipton
quote:Because their simple minds can't get past the catch phrase which isn't even a catch phrase.
How can so many people be so wrong about this?
The courts have ruled on this. It's settled.
Just scream navigable and don't bother to actually read.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:59 pm to Corkfather
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Here comes everyone saying that they own the water.
is it muddy or clean
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:00 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I lease the land from a private owner.
I did not personally dig the canal myself
Straight lying now
If that gate is beyond your lease I'm gonna rip it down with Hobie and mirage drive
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:01 pm to slackster
quote:That is a great idea and all, but it's not even close to the law, and should has no place in this discussion.
It is pretty straight forward - the moment a canal was dug to allow public water to flow into it, public boats should be allowed in as well. If you want them out, put the land back where it was and the water will leave too.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:04 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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The red boundary you provided isn't at the mouth of the canal
thats isnt my lease, that's an example
you think I'm going to post a pic of my lease with all you poachers and trespassers posting in this thread
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:05 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:no you won't
I'm gonna rip it down
But it's still kinda cool to say you will and all....
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:05 pm to SuperSaint
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SuperSaint
What up brah? You been alright?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:06 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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If that gate is beyond your lease I'm gonna rip it down with Hobie and mirage drive
the gate in ON my lease
the lily boom may or may not be on my lease but you can raise your engine and float right over that
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:07 pm to musick
No public restoration monies should go to any areas within 2 miles of any gated off marsh/swampland area. If they want to gate off their land fine but they don't get the benefit of public dollars being used to help rebuild their disappearing wetlands.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:09 pm to ihometiger
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No public restoration monies should go to any areas within 2 miles of any gated off marsh/swampland area. If they want to gate off their land fine but they don't get the benefit of public dollars being used to help rebuild their disappearing wetlands.
Landowners would be fine with that. Less boat traffic = less erosion and they won't have to worry about their land disappearing.
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