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re: Madison Brooks Rape Trial- Its been over 2 years
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:34 am to jizzle6609
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:34 am to jizzle6609
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People are downvoting video evidence. Its fascinating. You can be whatever you want now and people will just run to your defense. Just not a white man.
People have jumped the shark with this case. My daughter was a Sr in high school when this happened and I asked her what the kids at school were saying. Apparently that means I’m trying to be “the cool mom”.
People rather shoot the messenger when they don’t hear what they want.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:34 am to Chad504boy
quote:No one has said it’s outright not rape. We are arguing with people like you who are arguing that it outright is. Big difference, yes?
they all saw video of the girl scurrying across the road. therefore she wasn't raped.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:40 am to ell_13
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No one has said it’s outright not rape.
you either think she was raped or she was not raped. there is a shite ton of statements and evidence that corroborates what is needed to come to a necessary conclusion of why these young men were indicted.
feel free to hop off the fence and declare your opinion. if you say she was raped, then its pretty cut and dry.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:41 am to LSUAngelHere1
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Madison Brooks
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LSUAngelHere1
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:44 am to Chad504boy
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feel free to hop off the fence and declare your opinion. if you say she was raped, then its pretty cut and dry.
The actual evidence has not been laid out to judge this yet.
The videos and DNA evidence will be the keys to the trial. Her status of coherence in the videos can sway a lot of opinions.
For example, once I had a guy once do his SFST literally perfectly. This was pre-body cam and the video was from the unit's front-facing camera. I thought this was a slam dunk dismissal UNTIL he got into the back seat and the mic started picking up audio and the defendant started talking with the officers. The amount of incoherence and slurring in his speech was never going to give him a chance.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
some evidence was laid out to judge brad meyers and his conclusion was
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The judge concluded that – based on the two videos and statements made by Mr Carver to investigators – he said it was clear that a crime had occurred that fateful night.
“The evidence to me is clear,” he said.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:49 am to Chad504boy
quote:Because how dare someone say there’s not enough in the public domain to know for certain. There are only 2 pieces that of evidence that we know that would lead someone to think rape is on the table. The BAC and Carver’s initial statement which is contradictory. In the other hand, there is evidence to show that she wasn’t forced or coerced to do anything and some even suggests she is the aggressor.
you either think she was raped or she was not raped.
If all you base your conclusion on is her BAC, with no questions asked, then by that logic you or I or anyone could go get shitfaced to a 0.3 BAC and try to frick anyone we wanted and simply claim rape the next day… doesn’t matter if we were the instigator or not. Sound right?
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:53 am to Chad504boy
That's not a trial determination.
The LINK you didn't post
Is Myers even presiding over the case currently?
The LINK you didn't post
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At the bond hearing,
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Mr Washington had his bond set by 19th Judicial District Judge Brad Myers at $150,000. Mr Lee was given a $75,000 bond and Mr Carver was given a $50,000 bond.
Is Myers even presiding over the case currently?
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:54 am to ell_13
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Because how dare someone say there’s not enough in the public domain to know for certain. There are only 2 pieces that of evidence that we know that would lead someone to think rape is on the table. The BAC and Carver’s initial statement which is contradictory. In the other hand, there is evidence to show that she wasn’t forced or coerced to do anything and some even suggests she is the aggressor.
If all you base your conclusion on is her BAC, with no questions asked, then by that logic you or I or anyone could go get shitfaced to a 0.3 BAC and try to frick anyone we wanted and simply claim rape the next day… doesn’t matter if we were the instigator or not. Sound right?
no, i can't have real conversations with you if you're going to ignore all of the statements made by casen carver as well as kaivon washington who has 3 rape charges against him. there's video of madison brooks falling off a stool at the bar, video of her drunk status, admittance of her unable to answer questions of where she lives and slurring, needing to ask multiple times to consent, carver saying himself she's fixing to get rape, washington saying himself she was drunk like drunk drunk, a girl so intoxicated that she got ran over by a car in the middle of a road, her bac corroborating alcohol levels that align with a severe state of intoxication, there's literally zero doubt in this case to argue that she was in any sort of state to consent. eta: carver even stopped washington cause of how bad the situation was. sit on that fence all you want.
This post was edited on 2/27/25 at 9:56 am
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not a trial determination.
i don't give a shite. i'm giving you what the opinion of a judge was once he was presented just some of the pieces of evidence.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:56 am to Chad504boy
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i don't give a shite
I know you don't. You've let emotional thinking override fact-based analysis and rational thinking. It's clear every time the subject comes up and you display the same analytical issues.
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i'm giving you what the opinion of a judge was once he was presented just some of the pieces of evidence.
And that is literally irrelevant to the conversation, which you'd understand if you were looking at this rationally and based on facts instead of emotionally causing you irrationality.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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I know you don't. You've let emotional thinking override fact-based analysis and rational thinking. It's clear every time the subject comes up and you display the same analytical issues.
you said things haven't been laid out. you were wrong. you can bend things however you want. the opinion of a judge that saw evidence is about as important of a talking point in this thread as anything else. not sure why you think i'm being deceitful posting something so simple.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:09 am to Chad504boy
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you said things haven't been laid out
Which is a factual statement. The totality of the trial evidence has not been presented yet.
You posting about minimal potential evidence being used at a bond hearing doesn't change my factual statement. This was explained to you, and you're doubling down. Why you're doubling down was even explained to you, and you're tripling down, now.
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you were wrong
I was not.
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he opinion of a judge that saw evidence is about as important of a talking point in this thread as anything else.
No. The results of a bond hearing years ago has almost 0 relevance to a discussion of the trial posture today, let alone the specific conversation to which you tried to use the irrelevancy.
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not sure why you think i'm being deceitful
I never said deceitful.
You're being emotional, which is making you irrational, which is making you make silly, untrue comments like this:
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you said things haven't been laid out. you were wrong. you
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:15 am to Chad504boy
quote:Who said I was ignoring them? He said she was a willing participant too. If anyone is ignoring his whole statement, you are.
you if you're going to ignore all of the statements made by casen carver as well as kaivon washington who has 3 rape charges against him
quote:And if that drunk person tries to aggressively frick those guys and they don’t say no it’s their fault, right? She certainly tried to make Carver feel like shite for not joining. I wonder how differently you would feel if the genders were reversed. A guy gets drunk… chased after girls… fricks two them and calls one a count for not joining in… gets dropped off in the wrong neighborhood after yelling at them and telling them he wants out only to walk into a highway and die.
there's video of madison brooks falling off a stool at the bar, video of her drunk status, admittance of her unable to answer questions of where she lives and slurring, needing to ask multiple times to consent, carver saying himself she's fixing to get rape, washington saying himself she was drunk like drunk drunk, a girl so intoxicated that she got ran over by a car in the middle of a road, her bac corroborating alcohol levels that align with a severe state of intoxication, there's literally zero doubt in this case to argue that she was in any sort of state to consent.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:15 am to dragginass
Right, so what should that number be? The government has established 0.08 BAC for driving, what should the number be for sex? And do you think everyone who had sex with someone over that number should be found guilty of 3rd degree rape?
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:16 am to ell_13
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He said she was a willing participant too.
this only matters to anyone that is pro raper.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:18 am to LSBoosie
Technically, the number should be the same. So it should be 0.08 BAC for both DWIs and 3rd degree rape. It doesn't make sense when looked at in totality otherwise.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:20 am to Chad504boy
He didn’t touch her. Are you saying Carver is a raper too? If you’re questioning his honesty in the police report, then you have to apply that to all of his comments or just the ones you agree with?
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:20 am to Chad504boy
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this only matters to anyone that is pro raper.
No, Chad. If she's on video and seems coherent and a willing participant, it's going to go a long way with the jury's considerations of not voting guilty.
She was coherent enough to allegedly proposition Carver and then call him the F-word for not taking a turn. She had some conceptual understanding of her situation to engage in that proposition and the corresponding insults.
And if there isn't proper DNA evidence, the prosecution can't even establish that penetration occurred unless it's clearly on video.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 10:20 am to LSBoosie
So you think these guys did nothing wrong?????
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