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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Yeah, I am all for rights and all that.


Oh, well that's good. But if it can prevent just one life from being lost, anything is worth it. Am I right?
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
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without probable cause


You don't need probable cause for DWI checkpoints. I'm sure you were an absolute delight and gave the cop zero reason to give you a hard time.
Posted by CidCock
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
Sadly, I don't have stats off top my head, but I can tell you that over 70% of DUI's are repeat offenders.

Also, MANY MANY people get off on stupid technicalities, and keep driving. If we could keep habitual drunk drivers off the road, we'd save 7,000 lives a year. Those are just numbers and 7,000 may not seem high. But it's pretty high if your child/parent/sibling is one of them.
Posted by ALWho
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
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My experience at the West End DUI checkpoint Friday night


But but but, it's to get the drunks off the road. You would have gotten that ticket if you wouldn't have asserted your point. You were inconvenienced at least, your civil rights where suspended and for what? Revenue. Those check points are not about safety.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Oh, well that's good. But if it can prevent just one life from being lost, anything is worth it. Am I right?


Police agencies don't have the resources to keep most of offenders off the road. Anything that makes felons (drunk drivers) think twice about putting my life and my family's life at risk is a step in the right direction.

Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:41 pm to
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Those check points are not about safety.


Are you joking?

I can't speak for LA, but I work very closely with the SCHP and safety is far and away the priority. But go ahead with your baseless assumptions.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8436 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:41 pm to
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What is the license eye test yall keep referring to?


You stand straight, eyes forward as the cop holds a license in front of you, with the side of the card facing you. He moves it from side-to-side, up and down, and you are to follow the movement with your eyes only. You can't move your head.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62855 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:42 pm to
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Anything that makes felons (drunk drivers) think twice about putting my life and my family's life at risk is a step in the right direction.


Excellent. Let's increase civil property forfeitures and institute capital punishment for DUIs. Even one drop is one too many.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Sounds like you let them trample your constitutional rights.

Somehow, the constitution does not apply to DUI checkpoints.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8691 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Excellent. Let's increase civil property forfeitures and institute capital punishment for DUIs. Even one drop is one too many.


The BAC is the easiest thing for legislators to do to make it seem like they are serious about drunk driving, when it does nothing. 0.08 or whatever the level is, doesn't need to be lowered.

Drunk driving is a serious offense that people don't see as a big deal because everyone has done it. It's an epidemic in this country.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8436 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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You don't need probable cause for DWI checkpoints. I'm sure you were an absolute delight and gave the cop zero reason to give you a hard time.



I didn't give him a hard time. I complied. The idiot could not read and begrudgingly let me go.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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I missed out on an uncle when my dad's brother was killed by a drunk driver in 1983


Sorry to hear that.

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it's a real issue.


Ive seen arguments against the statistics as well...the fact is it is a criminal act and you should be charged if caught.

I DO NOT like the wholesale destruction of civil liberties for "safety"
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38660 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Excellent. Let's increase civil property forfeitures and institute capital punishment for DUIs


Scammingest scam that ever scammed.

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Even one drop is one too many.


Sit tight, MADD's gonna get it down to -0.00 before it's all over.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Anything that makes felons (drunk drivers) think twice about putting my life and my family's life at risk is a step in the right direction.


even if innocent people have their rights trampled?
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8691 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:47 pm to
Is there an infringement on my rights if my parents are killed by a repeat offender drunk driver who got a slap on wrist the last time?
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8691 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:49 pm to
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even if innocent people have their rights trampled?


Is your issue only with the legality of checkpoints, because I agree that you may have a point.

That being said, it's a grey area for me....I like keeping drunks off the road.

A large segment of the OT and America, empathizes with drunk drivers as if its no big deal. I have a MAJOR problem with that and would love to see that number reduced.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
38660 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:50 pm to
I understand this is personal for you. What happened to your family was terrible and it shouldn't happen to anyone. I am truly sorry for your loss.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62855 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Is there an infringement on my rights if my parents are killed by a repeat offender drunk driver who got a slap on wrist the last time?


Yes, which is why we should all be OK with cops immediately arresting anyone even suspected of having an alcoholic beverage within the past 24 hours. I don't even think such people should be allowed to go to court or have a lawyer. If people are faced with automatic jail time of at least five years with no chance of overturning the sentences, they'll think twice before drinking and driving, or hell, even driving.

This should make the fatality rates plummet.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:51 pm to
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A large segment of the OT
Its a La. cultural thing. You wouldn't understand living in Carolina.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Is your issue only with the legality of checkpoints, because I agree that you may have a point.


We are a nation of laws. When we begin to randomly make rules and enforce them on emotion we have lost.

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A large segment of the OT and America, empathizes with drunk drivers as if its no big deal.


I think you are wrong here, tbh.
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