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re: New Tacoma - is it worth it?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:38 pm to Madthedrifter
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:38 pm to Madthedrifter
buy ford.
you're welcome
you're welcome
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:38 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Up to you man. If you don't need 4 wd, don't get it
Here yout go vette guy for links
LINK
Here yout go vette guy for links
LINK
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:48 pm to WHATDOINO
They actually do look rather close in 60mo resale value 
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:53 pm to WHATDOINO
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Nobody is close.
Looks like the GMC Sierra and Chevy Colorado are very, very close (from your own link)in resale value after 60 months of ownership.
We get it. You like the Tacoma and are willing to sacrifice ride, interior comfort, engine performance, refinement, styling, handling, acceleration, fuel economy, and towing capacity for what you see as a better value (slightly better resale).
He's a recent review of both the Tacoma and it's main competitor from Car and Driver. It does not include full sized trucks. Not that the Tacoma is a bad vehicle...there are just far better choices available for the same money, which IMO also includes some full sized options since all manufacturers are fairly stingy on rebates for mid sized trucks. I think the Tacoma is at or near the bottom of its class right now.
LINK
The GM mid sized trucks have actually been a huge success story despite industry experts questioning the company's investment into a declining market segment. As it turns out, General Motors doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to meet demand.
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GM's 'told ya so' small pickups
Sales are conquested, not cannibalized
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Two years ago, General Motors' Mark Reuss relaxed on a lounge seat at the Los Angeles Auto Show, a few yards away from the new Chevrolet Colorado pickup that he'd unveiled hours earlier.
Reuss chuckled when asked about GM's gamble on smaller pickups, a category Ford and Ram had left for dead. Could he recall a time when one of the Detroit 3's pickup strategies had diverged so sharply from rivals'?
"No. It's wild," Reuss said, beaming. "This is going to be exciting to watch."
Now, one year after the Colorado and sibling GMC Canyon hit U.S. showrooms, Reuss has 95,000 more reasons to smile.
That's how many of the pickups GM was estimated to have sold this year through October, surpassing experts' full-year sales estimates in just 10 months. (IHS Automotive had pegged 81,000 for all of 2015.) They're getting snapped up nearly as fast as they arrive, with virtually no incentives. And customers tilt younger, more highly educated and more urban than Chevy's other pickup buyers.
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The numbers tell the tale:
• The Canyon's average transaction price of about $34,100 is tops in the midsize-pickup segment, data from Edmunds.com show. The Colorado's is $31,800, higher than the segment-leading Toyota Tacoma's $30,015, though that should rise after the Tacoma's recent redesign.
• The percentage of buyers from other brands -- the conquest rate -- is 56 percent for Canyon and nearly 50 percent for the Colorado, GM says. The Colorado's top conquests are Tacoma and Ford F-150 buyers.
• Around 40 percent of Colorados are rolling off dealership lots accessorized with bike racks and other gear, boosting dealer and GM profits, the company says.
Perhaps the most important measure of success doesn't show up in the Colorado's numbers at all: Sales of the big brother Silverado are red hot, too, erasing concerns that the Colorado would simply siphon sales away from GM's biggest money maker.
Through September, U.S. sales of the Silverado jumped 15 percent, making the Silverado the only one of the top five full-size pickups to post double-digit sales growth (followed by the GMC Sierra, up 9.8 percent; Ram, up 3.4 percent; Ford F series, up 1.3 percent; and Toyota Tundra, up 0.9 percent).
I'd say there's a very high possibility that Ford, Honda, and Ram introduce competitive new mid sized trucks in the near future as well. Toyota needs to either bring the Hilux to the US market (including the diesel model) or completely redesign the Tacoma very soon.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:59 pm to WHATDOINO
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Vetted guy, your argument is as invalid as that "jdpower" link. Lol That's a fricking joke
I'm lost.
Your link is about resale, which I said was excellent.
One of us is lacking in RIF and by "one of us", I mean you.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:07 pm to WHATDOINO
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The toyota line of trucks holds it resale BETTER than any other out there.
Ive priced used trucks and id say they all hold their value quite well in today's environment. Besides maybe Dodge.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:14 pm to N2cars
I recently traded my 08" Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4 for a Colorado 4x4 Z71.
From someone who has owned both I will say this . The only things the Tacoma does better are hard core four wheeling and resale.
The Colorado looks better, rides better, is more powerful, gets better mpg in town and WAYYY better on the highway (and thats w/o the aftermarket flash which betters performance and mpg for @ $300). The interior is nicer, the seats more comfortable and the amenities better for similiarly priced vehicles.
My only concern is whether or not I will trade the gas Colorado in on a new diesel version
As I have heard, the diesel will get @ 30 in town and almost 40 on the highway.
Toyota sat on their laurels for far too long and got passed by...literally. While I enjoyed my Tacoma, at 130,000 it was in need of a water pump,was getting @ 16 mpg combined and had a drivetrain vibration that could not be fixed, despite throwing almost a grand at it in part replacement.
Do yourself a favor and go drive a similiarly equipped '16 Tacoma and a '16 Colorado /Canyon and let me know what you think.
From someone who has owned both I will say this . The only things the Tacoma does better are hard core four wheeling and resale.
The Colorado looks better, rides better, is more powerful, gets better mpg in town and WAYYY better on the highway (and thats w/o the aftermarket flash which betters performance and mpg for @ $300). The interior is nicer, the seats more comfortable and the amenities better for similiarly priced vehicles.
My only concern is whether or not I will trade the gas Colorado in on a new diesel version
As I have heard, the diesel will get @ 30 in town and almost 40 on the highway.
Toyota sat on their laurels for far too long and got passed by...literally. While I enjoyed my Tacoma, at 130,000 it was in need of a water pump,was getting @ 16 mpg combined and had a drivetrain vibration that could not be fixed, despite throwing almost a grand at it in part replacement.
Do yourself a favor and go drive a similiarly equipped '16 Tacoma and a '16 Colorado /Canyon and let me know what you think.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:18 pm to AUTimbo
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Toyota sat on their laurels for far too long and got passed by...literally. While I enjoyed my Tacoma, at 130,000 it was in need of a water pump,was getting @ 16 mpg combined and had a drivetrain vibration that could not be fixed, despite throwing almost a grand at it in part replacement.
Pretty much what my take on Toyota is overall.
PS: my guess on the drivetrain vibration would ne a motor mounts.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:19 pm to AUTimbo
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My only concern is whether or not I will trade the gas Colorado in on a new diesel version As I have heard, the diesel will get @ 30 in town and almost 40 on the highway.
Also, if I was considering this, I would wait on the second model year before jumping on this.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:21 pm to AUTimbo
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While I enjoyed my Tacoma, at 130,000 it was in need of a water pump,was getting @ 16 mpg combined and had a drivetrain vibration that could not be fixed, despite throwing almost a grand at it in part replacement.
There's been more than a couple of TSBs on Tacoma's drive train problems. In their defense, Toyota seems to be trying very hard to fix it.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:32 pm to goofball
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Like other TSB’s the parts to be looked at and replaced are mainly in the rear with the rear engine insulator engine mount and leaf springs.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:32 pm to N2cars
You posted a jd power link man. Have you kept up with those over the years? They change every year on who buys most magazine subscriptions.
As far as you guys cherry picking my resale numbers, it's 75% to 67 at 36 months and leads at every interval.
As far as you guys cherry picking my resale numbers, it's 75% to 67 at 36 months and leads at every interval.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:33 pm to N2cars
Damn, I thought those trucks never had to go to the shop
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:33 pm to AUTimbo
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My only concern is whether or not I will trade the gas Colorado in on a new diesel version
As I have heard, the diesel will get @ 30 in town and almost 40 on the highway.
I might be willing to lift my ban on UAW products for this one. It will probably be a year before the local dealerships stop marking them up though.
I think the Canyon can be had with a Denali model soon as well.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:34 pm to WHATDOINO
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You posted a jd power link man. Have you kept up with those over the years? They change every year on who buys most magazine subscriptions.
I have no idea WTH you are talking about.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:35 pm to Croacka
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Damn, I thought those trucks never had to go to the shop
Bad owners, I'm sure.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:39 pm to WHATDOINO
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They change every year on who buys most magazine subscriptions.
Actually they are a widely respected marketing research company that earns money by licensing and selling the findings of their research to companies. Their findings are in no way limited to automotive research either.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:40 pm to AUTimbo
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Toyota sat on their laurels for far too long and got passed by...literally. While I enjoyed my Tacoma, at 130,000 it was in need of a water pump,was getting @ 16 mpg combined and had a drivetrain vibration that could not be fixed, despite throwing almost a grand at it in part replacement.
Do yourself a favor and go drive a similiarly equipped '16 Tacoma and a '16 Colorado /Canyon and let me know what you think.
Herr is a link that will show you who is the leader and everyone else is following.
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True to form, the Toyota Tacoma led the midsize charge, selling 88,801 units through the first six months of 2015, up 18.2 percent from last year. However, General Motors is mounting a challenge with its fresh-faced Colorado and Canyon, which have contributed a combined 56,592 units sold so far this year. In fact, with a 15 day selling rate in June, GM is working overtime just to get them to dealer lots
The sales for the first 6 months of 2015, 88,000 to 56,000 combined for gm Colorado and canyon
It's not close and toyota will always lead this.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:43 pm to dewster
I think he may be talking about CR, but honestly, I really don't know what magazine subscriptions have to do with anything.
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