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Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:17 pm to GAAtty70
Prosecutors have every advantage (time, money, manpower), and still cheat to get convictions.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well it sounds terrible but the system isn't about establishing the truth
It sounds terrible because it is terrible. When truth is secondary to wealth and resources, we get disastrous results like rich or connected people being allowed to murder. It's not a legal system it's an industry for creating wealth.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:20 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Prosecutors sometimes end up being around cops too much and bring some of that shitty mentality to the job
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:21 pm to LucasP
when you realize how faulty memory is, it become less terrible when pondering about it
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:22 pm to LZ83
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I wouldn't want to defend those I know are guilty.
These are the easy ones to defend. Protect the rights that protect us all (especially people that are innocent). Speaking of an innocent person, those are hard to defend. The stakes and the stress are high.
I defend, criminals, cops, and the rights every free person should cherish. If you are going to champion a cause, champion truth. Without truth...justice and honor do not stand a chance.
Enough of my babbling someone has explained defending people better than I can:
Defending People
Cicero wrote, “It might be pardonable to refuse to defend some men, but to defend them negligently is nothing short of criminal.” It might be pardonable, but it is by no means laudable. We are defense lawyers. We defend. Wir können nicht anders. Among other things, the categorical imperative demands that we do so. What we owe society is to do our jobs.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:23 pm to GAAtty70
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I learned from a previous thread that Personal injury attorneys are held in very low regard by the OT.
Because a large number of that profession are ambulance chasers. I have zero issue with a PI lawyer that is actually an honest human being, but there's enough chiropractic practices still open to know otherwise.
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I am curious what this group thinks about the professions of prosecutor and defense attorney
- Do you feel like one of those two is a more inherently noble profession? If so, why?
Nope. Average citizens do not understand the adversarial nature of defense and prosecution. If the prosecutor does not convince a jury of the guilt, I have zero issue letting the accused go.
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- How do you feel about the place of attorneys in the criminal justice system? Is it a bad thing that the practice of law is limited to a licensed few?
I think it's insane ADAs are judged based on win/loss record, and I think it's insane plaintiff's bar has so much damn power.
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- How do you feel about these players being primarily government employees? Should prosecution and indigent defense (Public Defender's handle approximately 3/4 of all criminal cases in this country) be privatized? How would you manage that?
No opinion, I just do not know enough about it to give a legit response.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:24 pm to bmy
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Anyone actually think OJ would have gotten off if he couldn't afford the legal team he had?
OJ got off because the prosecutors fricked up their case.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:26 pm to Five0
OJ got off b/c of the Rodney King situation and riots more than anything dealing with that case itself
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
No it actually makes it worse.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:35 pm to GAAtty70
I don't like that DA's are elected, I think they should be appointments. I think elections push DA's toward zealousness.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:39 pm to LucasP
re-creating "the truth" is impossible 1-2 years after the event happens
that's not a problem with a system; that's a problem with reality
i'm willing to listen to better ways to construct a system around that reality, but they are 2 very different issues/concepts
that's not a problem with a system; that's a problem with reality
i'm willing to listen to better ways to construct a system around that reality, but they are 2 very different issues/concepts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:39 pm to GAAtty70
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the practice of law is limited to a licensed few
A licensed few? You are joking, right?
Four ephen law schools in Louisiana. There should be two, tops, but as long as they continue to promise jobs and can get large incoming 1L classes to foot the bill nothing will change. And, they should raise the standards for bar exams. There are not too many lawyers, just too many bad lawyers.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
No argument on the shittiness of memories, and it is pretty terrifying that people lose their freedom based on faulty recollection. My point is that if a poor person is accused of a crime then he is essentially condemned without recourse because he lacks the resources to create a competing "truth" to the prosecutions. A person with resources has the opposite experience.
The end result is a consequence-free society for some and others just have to pray that they don't get accused of anything.
The end result is a consequence-free society for some and others just have to pray that they don't get accused of anything.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:44 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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A licensed few? You are joking, right?
What I meant by that is should you be able to have your non lawyer buddy defend you if you thought he would do a good job?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:28 pm to deeprig9
quote:I understand where you're coming from, but appointed by who?
I don't like that DA's are elected, I think they should be appointments.
I sure as hell don't want Mayor Broome appointing a DA.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:46 pm to GAAtty70
How many court appointed attorneys actually defend their clients? Are they really getting the best defense?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:57 pm to GAAtty70
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I learned from a previous thread that Personal injury attorneys are held in very low regard by the OT.
You are an attorney and didn’t know everyone loathes amberlamps chasers?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:04 pm to GAAtty70
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prosecutor
Not the best or brightest, they are the school teachers of the legal profession.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:09 pm to GAAtty70
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Personal injury attorneys are held in very low regard by the OT.
My god I cant think of a higher endorsement.
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