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Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:16 pm to
I didn't feel like staying up all night last night arguing this. Again, nothing posted here is credible. You are taking bits of information and twisting it into propaganda and using using countless broad generalizations. "They're eating the pets, they're eating the pets!" as Trump would say. You are saying poverty doesn't exist in America. Murder rates and HIV rates are all associated with poverty. You are saying this because you are spoiled white guy, and haven't seen it. You probably have had your parents take care of you your whole life or had a cushion to fall back on, then your family you got a job or promotion that you don't deserve, through nepotism. Now, you are condemning everyone else as being lazy and there is no poverty. Or you condemn blacks for affirmative action (which I don't support), while you are getting the same preferences. Somebody called me a pussy for condemning the government for reducing the amount of unemployment benefits in a time when Biden has shut down the oil and gas industry. Again, the dumbasses posting here are clueless about what they are talking about.

I don't know where wealth is equally distributed, but you are still posting biased facts. The charts that you are posting are showing how great America is for the wealthy elitists that have all of the money, and five vacation homes and a yacht. It's not breaking it down by each group, 99% of America will never see this. I've seen people (including myself) go years without air conditioning in the summer on the gulf coast, and live in dilapidation because of lack of work. In fact, I couldn't move out of my last home (which was starting to become dilapidated) because of lack of work/money. But guys like you have a quick and simple answer for everything, as long as you aren't in that situation. And yes, even third world countries have smartphones today, that is not unique to America, as countless people have claimed.

Social engineering is putting unqualified blacks into jobs that they don't deserve, through race quotas. Nepotism/cronyism is putting whites into jobs that they don't deserve. That means that there is nothing left for the few qualified whites leftover.

With all of the deep state bullshite going on from the NSA/intelligence agencies, America is living under the same type of tyranny that the USSR was under. Americans just don't know they are, because its clandestine. In America, the truth is drowned out by loud propaganda.
Posted by Loconuts
Member since Dec 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:22 pm to
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I don't know where wealth is equally distributed, but you are still posting biased facts. The charts that you are posting are showing how great America is for the wealthy elitists that have all of the money, and five vacation homes and a yacht. It's not breaking it down by each group, 99% of America will never see this. I've seen people (including myself) go years without air conditioning in the summer on the gulf coast, and live in dilapidation because of lack of work. In fact, I couldn't move out of my last home (which was starting to become dilapidated) because of lack of work/money. But guys like you have a quick and simple answer for everything, as long as you aren't in that situation. And yes, even third world countries have smartphones today, that is not unique to America, as countless people have claimed.


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Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64259 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:06 pm to
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Again, nothing posted here is credible.


It's good that you preface your comments with this. Saves us all a lot of time.

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You are saying poverty doesn't exist in America.


It doesn't. I've demonstrated this for you and you have still provided no evidence to refute any of it.

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I don't know where wealth is equally distributed


Nowhere. And it never will be. It will either be distributed to those who earn it via the free market or taken by the government via authoritarianism. There are no other options.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 6:09 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:13 pm to
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It doesn't.


Have you been all over the country?

No? Then you are arguing from ignorance.

Fatso.
Posted by Loconuts
Member since Dec 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:17 pm to
If we’re considering poverty relatively, then sure, there are people living in poverty in the US. But poverty in the US is light years ahead of places like India, The Philippines a lot of Africa and even some parts of South America.

Nobody in the United States really “has it bad.” Some just aren’t as well off or comfortable as others.

And yes I’ve been all over the US. I’ve lived in Niger for 5 years. Spent months in Papua New Guinea and the Philippines. Nobody here is starving or having to send their kids to work at the age of 7 just to be able to eat. It’s not even really debatable.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20394 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:19 pm to
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this, there is no poverty in the US


This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve seen on this site
Posted by Loconuts
Member since Dec 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:22 pm to
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This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve seen on this site


Is it? Nobody is starving here. Everyone has access to quality healthcare and a basic education. It’s obvious that many people don’t know the definition of poverty.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19443 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:22 pm to
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This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve seen on this site


I think he means on a global level. Our poverty is not like world poverty. Not even close.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19443 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:26 pm to
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This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve seen on this site


A lot of our poverty is self induced, let’s start here. Drugs and alcohol being the main culprit. I’d argue most people in poverty in this country have somewhat of a roof over their head and water. Heck, a lot of them have cell phones, tvs etc. The person in the us has the choice to get up, clean up and try to get a job, somewhere. Many don’t.

Now, let’s compare this to a mother in the Congo. Her day might consist of trying to FIND water to give to her 3 children. Then hopefully there’s food in the village later.

The levels of differences are staggering.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40065 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:29 pm to
Anyone who doesn't have running water and electricity has elected not to. There is no poverty in America.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:34 pm to
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I've seen people (including myself) go years without air conditioning in the summer on the gulf coast, and live in dilapidation because of lack of work.


McDonald's is always hiring.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20394 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Everyone has access to quality healthcare and a basic education.


Definitely don’t think that’s true.

I have no interest in dragging this out. I know people who are going hungry.

Also, a cheating answer. Go look at the obscure places in the US. I think you’ll be shocked with how much poverty there really is if you actually open your eyes to it
Posted by Loconuts
Member since Dec 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:52 pm to
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Also, a cheating answer. Go look at the obscure places in the US. I think you’ll be shocked with how much poverty there really is if you actually open your eyes to it


Relative to most of the US? Yes

Relative to the of the world? Absolutely not.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20394 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:57 pm to
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A lot of our poverty is self induced, let’s start here. Drugs and alcohol being the main culprit. I’d argue most people in poverty in this country have somewhat of a roof over their head and water. Heck, a lot of them have cell phones, tvs etc. The person in the us has the choice to get up, clean up and try to get a job, somewhere. Many don’t. Now, let’s compare this to a mother in the Congo. Her day might consist of trying to FIND water to give to her 3 children. Then hopefully there’s food in the village later. The levels of differences are staggering.


I don’t outright disagree with the basic concept of what you said. But I think you’d be shocked how awfully a lot of people in the US live. I remember a couple of police officers who were in Iraq said there was less poverty there than what they saw in a day to day in the US. They actually said mental illness was a way bigger issue than anything else. Willing to admit they may have been hyperbolic but still. What I hear experts say tends to match with what I’ve seen and what statistics say.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:59 pm to
Of course there is poverty but there are charities and shelters that help people. I can understand if you fall on hard times but you still need to put in effort and not just wait for your government check the rest of your life.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20394 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:04 pm to
Not sure how you can go confidently state that. I don’t want to get into a long drawn out thing. But what’s the baseline we’re using?

You mentioned cell phones. At least when I was in school, Africans were known to have way more cell phones than Western countries because they relied on the internet more than in Western countries because they didn’t have enough brick and mortar infrastructure to do what they needed to.

Their needs are obviously being fulfilled more there than here in that their populations are booming.

I don’t want to say the US is as bad as the Congo. Of course it isn’t for the most part. But to say that poverty isn’t in the US is insane being willfully ignorant to what people are dealing with
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:05 pm to
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McDonald's is always hiring.


Who posts this type of stupid shite? I really believe kids living with their parents. They obviously don't have to support themselves. A job at McDonalds does not pay a livable wage. That won't even pay the utility bills. This forum has the stupidest people I've ever encountered. I truly believe they are military/intelligence trolls.
Posted by Loconuts
Member since Dec 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:06 pm to
I’m saying that poor people in the US have it relatively well compared to poor people in real poor countries. But obviously our impoverished don’t have a nice life compared to most Americans or Europeans.
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:12 pm to
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I’m saying that poor people in the US have it relatively well compared to poor people in real poor countries. But obviously our impoverished don’t have a nice life compared to most Americans or Europeans.



Dude, you are another dumb frick like the rest of the people posting here. You don't know what you are talking about. You talk about things and have opinions that come from cliches or broad generalizations. These are the most annoying douchebags in American society, and 99% of them are stupid little white boys. I'm white, but I was never this dumb.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5090 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:13 pm to
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A job at McDonalds does not pay a livable wage.


They have air-conditioning though. 2 birds.
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