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Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
It's ALL about willpower.....
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:03 pm to
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The shite is a weird cult imo.
AA is the exact opposite of a cult. In a cult, everyone believes in the same thing etc..

In AA, every person is tasked with developing, maintaining and enhancing a relationship with a Higher Power unique to them and them alone.
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:19 pm to
Literally the opposite is true if you're a true alcoholic/addict.
This post was edited on 6/3/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:19 pm to
Yeah the entire program is built on suggestions.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27307 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Yeah the entire program is built on suggestions.
Exactly.It was once suggested to me that I stop drinking while I tried to sober up!!


We are not a glum lot
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216342 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:27 pm to
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Literally the opposite the opposite is true if you're a true alcoholic/addict.



I am gonna keep this as clean as I can... I AM A recovering Allky... Its A Struggle EVERYDAY...


frick YOU with your stupid opinions...

GOT IT......


I Stopped on my own... BUT I have been to plenty of AA meetings..

I doubt you have been to ONE...



AGAIN,,, STFU...............
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7786 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Its A Struggle EVERYDAY...


Maybe if you were in aa it wouldn't be this way
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27307 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:39 pm to
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Its A Struggle EVERYDAY...
Page 85 states unequivocally that the struggle has been removed.
Posted by DeltaTiger14
Shangri La
Member since Nov 2015
181 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 5:44 pm to
Surprised to see this thread still going. Thanks to those who answered and especially those who offered to help. I am going to try a meeting with a different group. I can't see how it could hurt.
Posted by Sugarbuggies
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
262 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 5:56 pm to
Bill Wilson wrote a book about my life 25 years before I was born. The book describes me to the T. I felt so unique before I came into the rooms. I found out I was not by myself. They ASK me to give this AA a try, if it dont work will will gladly return my misery. It saved my life. I now try to give to others what was so freely given to me. I have learned to live life on life's terms, sometimes life sucks. But I know how to handle it without taking a drink or drug. I see people on this board that say AA didn't work for them. I have never seen a person who works the steps go back out.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:48 pm to
I'm on my 7th beer at 6:51 pm

Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7815 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:49 pm to
Therapy and groups are best

Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Grand Marnier


Reminds me of a very specific bar I used to frequent. Weird seeing it brought up.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77203 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:51 pm to
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dukke v


Don't be a quitter PJ. Push through to the golden nectar on the other side. Don't see it as a struggle. See it as an opportunity. To start practicing an old hobby again.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37723 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Do you think long term sobriety be maintained without peer groups like AA?


It depends. If you're an alcoholic you MUST have some sort of recovery. AA, church or both are the most proven to work.

If you were just a heavy drinker and decided to hang it up than you might not fit the bill.

But surrounding yourself with people also living like you want to live (the fellowship) is essential in maintaining sobriety. Your particular situation will dictate what level of recovery you need.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37723 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 7:05 pm to
Read through the first couple pages and one thing needs to be made clear:

Not drinking and living sober are two different things.

You can quit drinking and still be absolutely miserable. It's called being 'dry.'
Being 'sober' is a way of living in which an alcoholic finds the happiness and joy he used to try and find by drinking.
Sobriety is a wonderful thing and there are many ways to do it. AA however has been proven to work for MILLIONS. Seems like a person would want to play those odds.

I know several people that don't drink anymore and they'd be much better off drinking. They think they can just stop and be happy. Doesn't work that way. You HAVE to have a program of recovery.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 7:23 pm to
I am sober for 12 years. The meetings don't help me but I probably quit before I became addicted. I was a problem drinker.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42275 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 7:45 pm to
Well peej, I am too. And if will power was the issue I wouldn't consider myself an alcoholic.

But whatever works for you.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:13 pm to
The "right" answer to give is that AA isn't for everyone and doesn't hold the only keys to longevity in sobriety.

From me to you (based on my personal experience) - good luck finding something as effective. Lord knows I tried everything else: focus on school/work, go the health route, go the getting pussy all the time route, therapy once a week, meds, religion, etc. Nothing really grabbed my soul like the program of AA. I've been sober for 11 years and I'm not too proud to say that I knew nothing about living before getting sober. It's probably why I drank and drugged to excess. Probably why we all did. Tried to duck and dodge responsibility and living in a grown up world. And that's putting it VERY generic. It's actually much more complex than that. The drugs and alcohol were a symptom. Quitting is the easy part. The hard part is living without it, which is where the program of AA did a miracle for me. And still does, 11 years later.

Being sober has taught me everything I know as an adult.

Good luck in your efforts!
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 8:29 pm to
For me, just the epiphany that I detest the person I am when I drink and like the sober me a lot more has been more than enough to keep me going. I used to think I wasn't enjoyable to be around unless I was drinking to "loosen me up", but was told the opposite by loved ones in my life. So drinking was a thing to cover up social anxieties for me, then led to a constant habit. Good luck to you.
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