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re: Resigning from my job tomorrow
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:52 am to PsychTiger
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:52 am to PsychTiger
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No, he means sales. He's going to be a drug dealer.
I just had the visual of "The Wire" where the guys went around telling everyone how awesome their crack is without ever closing a deal. This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 8:55 am
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:58 am to OMLandshark
Depends on the context. Is the immediate boss the chosen one of the higher up cool boss? How did immediate boss get in that position? The danger is even if you mean well, the cool boss could take it as a insult to his judgment.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:00 am to OMLandshark
But OP just realize you are leaving the sales world. If you are a sales goal minded person you could end up miserable. While you are an influencer, you are at the whim of the docs and the quickly changing pharma landscape. You will never get the rush of "closing the deal". You could always go back to software sales but when I was doing IT sales (hardware and software), having a book of business was one of the most important things to build. If you have repeat customers you will most likely lose them while you try this out.
ETA: all this supports you not burning bridges.
ETA: all this supports you not burning bridges.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:15 am to OMLandshark
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and the product I'm going to be selling really sells itself.
You don't sound like much of a go-getter in that statement. Just remember, if it sells itself then your effort may not be valued. That just means you may want to make sure you're doing some extra things to stand out and make your value known.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:19 am to OMLandshark
I was told as a young man in a similar situation to never burn your bridges- just walk away quietly.
After I left the job a Former co-worker told me there was a huge discussion about me leaving amd what prompted my exit and changes occurred.
After I left the job a Former co-worker told me there was a huge discussion about me leaving amd what prompted my exit and changes occurred.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:22 am to jbgleason
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Congrats for letting patients suffer so you can line your pockets. Check the Karma thread.
While you were being sarcastic...
My bro-n-law used to be in pharma sales, the major manufacturer put him on mgmt. fast track and had him working on a joint venture. The drug was a 1 dose lifesaver. #1 killer of hospitalized patients. The drug was 50% effective, meaning fully 1/2 the patients getting sepsis in the hospital would now live instead of die. They trashed it. Never gonna go to market. Why? It was $10,000 per pill and at 50% effective rate no insurance company would cover it. This was in the mid 1990's, thousands have died of sepsis since and more continue to die still.
TLDR: Pill saves 1/2 sepsis deaths, too expensive financially, pill never made public. So thousands dead who could still be alive.
That major drug company is now not so major and not so sound anymore too. Karma?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:23 am to tigerfoot
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While I think your advice is 100 percent correct, the statement above is a sad one.
My immediate thought as well.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:36 am to BamaChick
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BamaChick
Out of curiosity, what line is your drug in? How big a difference is your competitors product to yours? What would be the worst case scenario of someone taking yours over your competitors in regards to not as high of quality outcome? Are we talking life saving tier of drug or quality of life?
Just curious as I don't have to deal with this type of situation and if it is personally hard to reconcile.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:44 am to Aubie Spr96
Oh, I know it's a sad and shitty situation.
And, to be clear, the product class I'm selling in and referring to is not a life saving drug. (I won't go into any more details for fear this could get back to me). Nothing to do with cancer, cardiovascular, diabetes, lipids, etc.
When it comes to things like treating your toe fungus or sinusitis or cough or acne or erectile dysfunction, or whatever, docs 9 times out of 10 chose the product from the rep they have a relationship with. If I have a twice a day drug and my newbie competitor has a once a day drug, they will go with mine; even if once a day is easier for their patients.
Truthfully, the branded drugs today are mostly niche products anyway.
And 100% pharma "sales" is not sales - it is marketing.
Got to run - have to call an office to see what they want for lunch today - story of my career!
And, to be clear, the product class I'm selling in and referring to is not a life saving drug. (I won't go into any more details for fear this could get back to me). Nothing to do with cancer, cardiovascular, diabetes, lipids, etc.
When it comes to things like treating your toe fungus or sinusitis or cough or acne or erectile dysfunction, or whatever, docs 9 times out of 10 chose the product from the rep they have a relationship with. If I have a twice a day drug and my newbie competitor has a once a day drug, they will go with mine; even if once a day is easier for their patients.
Truthfully, the branded drugs today are mostly niche products anyway.
And 100% pharma "sales" is not sales - it is marketing.
Got to run - have to call an office to see what they want for lunch today - story of my career!
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:52 am to OMLandshark
don't burn any bridges behind you is traditional rule of thumb !
besides, everyone cept him knows, you'd just be piling on...
besides, everyone cept him knows, you'd just be piling on...
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:53 am to BamaChick
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And, to be clear, the product class I'm selling in and referring to is not a life saving drug. (I won't go into any more details for fear this could get back to me). Nothing to do with cancer, cardiovascular, diabetes, lipids, etc.
When it comes to things like treating your toe fungus or sinusitis or cough or acne or erectile dysfunction, or whatever, docs 9 times out of 10 chose the product from the rep they have a relationship with. If I have a twice a day drug and my newbie competitor has a once a day drug, they will go with mine; even if once a day is easier for their patients.
Truthfully, the branded drugs today are mostly niche products anyway.
And 100% pharma "sales" is not sales - it is marketing.
Got to run - have to call an office to see what they want for lunch today - story of my career!
That answers it all.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:05 am to OMLandshark
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his boss on the way out the door
Sure.. If his boss is losing out on productivity b/c of that guy he'd probably want to know.
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risk his recommendation for future jobs?
that's not how it works.. Unless you're going to work for a friend of that guys.
HR call to references of previous employment are only allowed to ask if he/she worked for them and prohibited from asking if they'd hire them back.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:22 am to Phil A Sheo
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prohibited from asking if they'd hire them back.
Still happens however
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:25 am to Restomod
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Still happens however
I'm sure in small companies. Larger corporations typically are going to mind their P's and Q's a bit more.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:41 am to OMLandshark
I'd shut up if I were you.
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