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re: Robert E. Lee monument coming down NOW

Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17667 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Are they going to take down the whole column and everything, or just the statue at the top?


Just that statue, which will not be easy for the fu**ing morons that have been handling this sh*t show.

Look at how large it is...

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
77032 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
I remember sitting on the Interstate in BR when they helicopter lifted the AC onto the roof of the Kohls off I-10. Blanketed the whole interstate in dirt/dust.

I would love to see protesters in the middle of that shitshow.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Federal OSHA neither has regulations, nor jurisdiction, over State, municipal, or volunteer fire departments. Section (3)(5) of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 specifically excludes Federal OSHA's authority over employees of State and local government. The Act provides for States to assume responsibility for occupational safety and health programs under the State's own plan, which must be approved by the U.S. Department of Labor. Each State-plan must include coverage of public employees of the State, and it must be "at least as effective" as Federal OSHA's protection of private sector employees.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5117 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:14 pm to
Wrong. It doesn't apply to Federal Government Entities, citations are issued but fines are not assessed, plus if this is being conducted by a contractor, they wouldn't fall under that protection even if it did exist.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I remember sitting on the Interstate in BR when they helicopter lifted the AC onto the roof of the Kohls off I-10. Blanketed the whole interstate in dirt/dust.



im telling you, they're using a helicopter

There is no other way to get a crane big enough down there in this short of time. They would have to take down the all the street car cables and then set up the crane

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
77032 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:15 pm to
frick. Now I want to go see this.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Wrong. It doesn't apply to Federal Government Entities,



quote:



Federal OSHA neither has regulations, nor jurisdiction, over State, municipal, or volunteer fire departments.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Federal OSHA applies to private sector workers. It does not cover state and local government
employees. States may opt to run their own state OSHA programs instead of being covered
by the federal government, but state programs approved by federal OSHA must cover
both the private sector and state and local government workers.


Twenty-two states have federally approved OSHA programs that cover public employees (AK, AZ, CA, HI, IN, IA,
KY, MD, MI, MN, NV, NM, NC, OR, PR, SC, TN, UT, VT, VA, WA, WY). Four states
CT, IL, NJ, NY and the Virgin Islands have federally approved state programs that apply
only to state and local government workers, and private sector workers are covered by federal
OSHA.

Approved state OSHA programs must be at least as effective as the federal program
and provide similar protections for workers.


Several other states administer job safety laws that cover only state and local government
workers that are not federally approved. A number of other states have “Right-to Know”
(R-T-K) laws that require employers to provide information and training to state and local
government workers about hazardous chemicals used on the job.


Federal workers are covered by their agencies under a Presidential Executive Order. Federal
agencies (except for the U.S. Postal Service) must maintain an effective safety and health
program that meets the same standards that apply to private employers. Federal agencies,
except the U.S. Postal Service, cannot be fined for violating health and safety standards.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21725 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:20 pm to
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OSHA doesn't apply to state/local governments.




They did for us. We were working on a city job where the contractor declined to get a shoring/bracing plan for underpinning under a building and OSHA showed up and stopped all construction. They fined every person on the job site in addition to all contractors.

The city workers may or may not be fined but all contractors would be.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5117 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:20 pm to
They do not if the state has its own arm of OSHA, which Louisiana does not, once again as I have said they cannot issue fines but OSHA can write citations to government entities and shut down jobs. Plus this work is being performed by a "contractor" and not government employees so they fall under OSHA guidelines unless a Mitch is telling a lie about no public resources being used.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128557 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:21 pm to
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im telling you, they're using a helicopter


That seems incredibly dangerous in that particular area.
Posted by Vino24
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
1596 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:22 pm to
this has the potential to go very poorly
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5117 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:22 pm to
not too mention gonna be rather windy tonight
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29313 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:22 pm to
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That seems incredibly dangerous in that particular area.


Mitch knows a guy named Bob Saccamano who will do it for $200
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Plus this work is being performed by a "contractor" and not government employees



Since when did NOPD and NOFD become a private contractor?
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35343 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:24 pm to
I just received a response to my FOIA request about the plans to remove Lee.

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37769 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Why would a plan be needed?


You can't be that fricking stupid.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35343 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

They would have to take down the all the street car cable


this
Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
3490 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

im telling you, they're using a helicopter



Cool! Maybe they'll drop it on mitch's arse and squash his shite for brains everywhere.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5117 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 2:26 pm to
that was the point. B&G is operating the crane then by definition they are a contractor and can be fine by OSHA, so unless they are leasing the equipment to the City of New Orleans, and it is being ran by a government employee (which can still be shut down by OSHA) then OSHA can issue heavy citations and fines. OSHA wants no part of this because they don't want to be labeled racists which proves they only care about the employee when it is beneficial to them.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 2:27 pm
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